2015 post UK election discussion

[roydo]

t n

 

[daylightrobber]

Because they need to make the same cuts as the Tories. So instead of decreasing T they want to increase N. That's what they mean by growth but it's not really growth at all.

Someone never read the LP manifesto.

 

[Mrk]

Someone never read the LP manifesto.

Leave Ed Miliband out of this.

 

[marty mcfly]

Someone never read the LP manifesto.

Hmmmmm - you have me there.

 

[BigDunc'sFod]

Basically anyone who voted Tory is a bell end unless they're rich.

/thread

 

[Blue 1]

The electorate rarely make the wrong choice in my opinion.

Be honest Labour supporters. The thought of the two red Eds running the country scares the [Poor language removed] out you.

Not as much as this shower of [Poor language removed] running it do.

I wouldn't call myself a Labour supporter though.

 

[bluemangroup]

Nah I just don't find rape and murder funny

You can take it too seriously

 

[Blue 1]

That photo was taken in 2004, at the height of a Labour government.

Bit embarrassing.

This should be more embarrasing:

Year Number of bottles of champagne consumed by House of Commons.
2010/2011 4,691
2011/2012 5,832
2012/2013 6,600
2013/2014 8,082

All paid for by the taxpayer.

 

[Joey66]

Eric pickles the only one to lose his cabinet seat, Let's see how long this load of Tories last until the infighting starts a load of rookies in the key cabinet post who have replaced the Lib Dems MPs imo - let the battle commence with Greece looking for an EU exit!
The hard right will explode if DC does a renegotion like a wish you wash deal!

 

[Tree13]

In an ideal world people would wait until they're financially stable but I can understand why people don't. Most people in my generation aren't at that point until there 30's and that's a long time to wait for some. Physically women are better off having kids when they are younger as well.

Right, this seems to be where we differ - I can't understand why, after doing the maths, people don't wait at least a couple of years. Any scrap of savings and slightly increased earning power is better than none at all.

Waiting and trying to save is prudent and might reduce the risk of falling on hard times later. It might also serve to slightly help alleviate the strain on the public purse, and the demands placed on the state school system - even if only temporarily. I'm not setting an arbitrary figure, or demanding a set period of time: I'm just advocating a basic semblance of planning and budgeting.

The counter-argument appears to consist of "I'm impatient. Someone else can pick up the bill." I can see why over 11 million people don't really care for that counter-argument.

 

[Tree13]

This should be more embarrasing:

Year Number of bottles of champagne consumed by House of Commons.
2010/2011 4,691
2011/2012 5,832
2012/2013 6,600
2013/2014 8,082

All paid for by the taxpayer.

That is pretty scandalous actually.

 

[Moomin]

I've never been accussed of being a faux irish before.

Look I'm not particularly for or against immigration or even EU like immigration but the facts are the facts. I have no problem with people saying yea you might be right however I still think the benifits outway the consequences and maybe here's how we can fix the issues.

I'm not even too sure where I stand on the issue. I think Dublin has improved due to immigration so it depends where you live.

After the Ireland v Scotland game last year a load of people claimed to be Irish on here, when in reality they just liked Guinness adverts and the novelty to claim they had Irish heritage.

64% of people on here who claim to be Irish are faux, like AIDS McGeady and James McCarthy.

Your place of birth, was it in Éire?

 

[tsubaki]

With respect I disagree. Miliband proved himself to strong in a number of interviews in the election period, he has frequently got the better of Cameron at PMQs and I think it is asking a huge amount of the new leader (whoever that person is) to come in and perform well at the dispatch box.

Much better to allow time to consider, and let Miliband take all the flack in the House for a while - at least until the summer recess.

Anyway, they're only opinions, your view is as valid as mine.

Hague used to rag Blair all over the place at PMQs, and would probably have done even worse to him in any kind of head to head debate. As for despatch box performance, it would be a lot easier, and a lot more beneficial for Labour, for a new leader to have a pop back at Cameron than to watch Miliband humiliate himself every Wednesday.

 

[roydo]

Have we talked about why Labour lost yet?

 

[Mrk]

This should be more embarrasing:

Year Number of bottles of champagne consumed by House of Commons.
2010/2011 4,691
2011/2012 5,832
2012/2013 6,600
2013/2014 8,082

All paid for by the taxpayer.

Disgraceful. Wouldn't mind if they paid for it themselves. Bet about 2,000 of those are Caroline Lucas.