2024/25 Relegation Thread

[catcherintherye]

By sacking a poor manager? They have assessed the teams around them and given themselves an opportunity.

I don't think he's a poor manager. I remember them doing similar with Rodgers. It didn't work then

 

[catcherintherye]

You said he was a better goalscorer than Harry Kane

I mean he has scored a lot of goals at that start of that season!

People should live a little, and try and enjoy life a bit .

Obviously that wasn't true, and it fell apart for him, and frankly for Everton since that moment. One of them I suppose.

 

[catcherintherye]

‘World class this lad. Best striker in world football for me. A very very good mans version of Harry Kane’

We’ve been very very close to relegation, it’s not really a ‘gotcha’ on those that have been warning of it.

Yes, when he was top of the scoring charts, banging on braces and hatrick. He then got injured and has never looked the same. Harry Kane has kept improving too, so that was clearly an overreach.

And it sort of is a gotcha, when I maintained for 3 seasons that we wouldn't go down, against many who said we definitely would.

But look, it's a forum. People have opinions. Some will be right, some will be wrong , and some in the middle. I wouldn't become too pre-occupied by what someone wrote about a young player who'd scored a hatrick in a team that was at the top of the league. If you can't enjoy that moment, what's the point following football?

 

[Gilbert..]

I mean have we been lucky? We had what looked a good goal chalked off v Southampton, and should have been playing 10 men. We were very unlucky in that game.

94th min goal against fulham. Lucky to get a point.
Gordon missing penalty at Goodison.
Clinging on at the end to a poor west ham side.
You take what you can but we could easly and some might say deserve to be on fewer points.
The lucky to come away with anything certainly tilts more than the of lucky not to come away with something.
Scary thing is last season early on i thought we were unlucky in games. Im not seeing that so far. We're a really poor side who lack any ideas.

 

[nsno-chris]

At the moment he has just scored a hatrick from memory, and was leading the PL scoring charts? Just for some context.

I did qualify the statement a little, and referenced that it was as a target man and number 9.

He didn't kick on though, he got injured and he fell away. Rather than kicking on as might have been expected, he is a shadow of that player.

One of them, watching us under Carlo that season and now feels a very long way away!

Just bizarre statement considering Harry Kane had scored 140 goals in 196 games by that time

 

[Titus Shambles]

94th min goal against fulham. Lucky to get a point.
Gordon missing penalty at Goodison.
Clinging on at the end to a poor west ham side.
You take what you can but we could easly and some might say deserve to be on fewer points.
The lucky to come away with anything certainly tilts more than the of lucky not to come away with something.
Scary thing is last season early on i thought we were unlucky in games. Im not seeing that so far. We're a really poor side who lack any ideas.

Well put indeed.

 

[catcherintherye]

Just bizarre statement considering Harry Kane had scored 140 goals in 196 games by that time

Yes with hindsight. He had had a slow start to the season and seemed to be slowing.

You kind of assume people would read between the lines and understand it to refer to that moment of time, but seemingly not. It appears you have to spell every connotation out.

I did clarify at the time what it referred to as well. But seemingly that gets missed as well!

 

[Brownie]

Has been my opinion since the window closed.

Get to January, hopefully afloat and under new owners and spend.

Just had no confidence in this squad under a manager who was never getting beyond the season.

We really nobbed it by losing the first four games. Any kind of half-decent start could have seen things play out differently. Even just beating Bournemouth. Instead, it's been survival mode all the time. That's why I'm seeing the 19 games as a bit of marker, and hopefully as a chance to reset. New owners, preferably a new manager, and some new players who are actually good enough to play for Everton.

 

[Saint Domingo]

They won the FA cup with Rodgers, the guy you are saying the board dropped the ball with. They'd have done much better with Dyche, presumably.

I didn’t say they dropped the ball with him, I said they kept him whilst he sent them down. Please try and read.

 

[Gilbert..]

We really nobbed it by losing the first four games. Any kind of half-decent start could have seen things play out differently. Even just beating Bournemouth. Instead, it's been survival mode all the time. That's why I'm seeing the 19 games as a bit of marker, and hopefully as a chance to reset. New owners, preferably a new manager, and some new players who are actually good enough to play for Everton.

Ive said this a few times. I'd have sacked him after Bournemouth. That was the worst in game managment ive seen at any time. Ive never seen a manger feck a game up so much with his own decisions. And i think he got off so lightly within the media.

 

[NSNO1878EFC]

94th min goal against fulham. Lucky to get a point.
Gordon missing penalty at Goodison.
Clinging on at the end to a poor west ham side.
You take what you can but we could easly and some might say deserve to be on fewer points.
The lucky to come away with anything certainly tilts more than the of lucky not to come away with something.
Scary thing is last season early on i thought we were unlucky in games. Im not seeing that so far. We're a really poor side who lack any ideas.

If Branthwaite was playing in the Bournemouth, Villa and Leicester games, we probably end up with 7-9 points instead of 1 so we should have got more from those 3 games. We have been lucky in some games since then though.

 

[matty1878]

If Branthwaite was playing in the Bournemouth, Villa and Leicester games, we probably end up with 7-9 points instead of 1 so we should have got more from those 3 games. We have been lucky in some games since then though.

one player doesn’t stop the imploding we did

 

[Marius57]

You still in the Dyche corner mate?

There’s a distinct lack of defending of Dyche in his thread since the game.

 

[matty1878]

There’s a distinct lack of defending of Dyche in his thread since the game.

they’re shouldn’t be any defending of dyche

 

[jazzy]

Yes, when he was top of the scoring charts, banging on braces and hatrick. He then got injured and has never looked the same. Harry Kane has kept improving too, so that was clearly an overreach.

And it sort of is a gotcha, when I maintained for 3 seasons that we wouldn't go down, against many who said we definitely would.

But look, it's a forum. People have opinions. Some will be right, some will be wrong , and some in the middle. I wouldn't become too pre-occupied by what someone wrote about a young player who'd scored a hatrick in a team that was at the top of the league. If you can't enjoy that moment, what's the point following football?

I thought it was a crazy assessment at the time and pointed it out to you but hey everyone is entitled to an opinion even if " there is no evidence to support it" .

To be fair it was a decent run of form for 6 months and very much the outlier in DCLs career .