#27 Years/NSNOW/#AllTogetherNow Fan Campaign

[WA Toffee]

My point isn't to say the club has been run well, its more about almost the entire fanbase colluding with that mismanagement, even cheering it on and our contribution to our mismanagement, now we've turned face. As a fanbase we have a role and a responsibility in this to.

As i say ive no axe to grind with someone like The Esk, id have a lot of respect for him as a lad, poster on here and a blue. But i think hes a good example of trend of collusion, he was in the vanguard of praise for Moshiri when he took over and the narrative was now of us hitting the big time and being on a par with the very biggest clubs, with Moshiri's investment and business acumen, the expectations were raise palpably huge, we all colluded with that, now hes part of this group of dissent - which is fair enough, but i also think its important to point out he and we all colluded with the management and investment and money being invested. Its a complete about face not just by The Esk - he's just the an illustrative example (and i dont mean this is a personal individualised slight in any way", but the fan base as a whole. We have had a role and responsibility maybe even a culpability in all of this.

Most fans were desparate for investment or a new owner. Moshiri came along and bought us and most fans were happy, especially when he started splashing the cash. You have that part correct.

However, given that the spending has been poor, there has not been a great amount of backroom continuity and some very questionable appointments (and lack of), a lot of fans have changed their minds and believe Moshiri is not what he was promised to be.

You seem to be criticising people for changing their minds based on the evidence they see, which I think is wrong.

 

[AndyC]

Nope, why would I?
I am not sure what they are protesting, because every protest in the past has been an absent owner not prepared to spend. Moshiri clearly is not this, he has done what he promised, spend money and deliver a new stadium. His biggest crime is employing managers not up to the job. All of which apart from that tub of lard last season got fans backing upon arrival.
Has he messed up, yes he has. I don't see the next owners spending anywhere near that money

With respect, just 3 of his ‘biggest crimes’ apart from employing managers not up to the job has been…

Not replacing a board that’s unfit for purpose…
Telling us that he has confidence in the unfit for purpose board…
And…
Being coerced by agents into paying well over the odds for bang average players… and giving them crazy salaries…

 

[Toff33Blues99]

He kept the same board that had failed for so many years ? He fell for DictatorBills BS I mean the guy isn’t all that smart if you fall for that disgrace

Now bill is a dictator, is there no end to his talent

 

[BNJ1878]

With respect, just 3 of his ‘biggest crimes’ apart from employing managers not up to the job has been…

Not replacing a board that’s unfit for purpose…
Telling us that he has confidence in the unfit for purpose board…
And…
Being coerced by agents into paying well over the odds for bang average players… and giving them crazy salaries…

100% correct.

The recency bias from a lot of the fans is mind boggling.

"We were stable under Kenwright"

We were not, we were gradually sinking, all the while frantically kicking below the surface to stay afloat.

Giving Kenwright a lottery win and allowing himself to lead a ridiculous, directionless spend, allowing various managers to spend, whilst not having the bollocks to stand up to the owner when HE himself spent at the request of agents!

An out of touch Chairman, a Chief Exec who if fired tomorrow wouldn't find a job paying her even one third of what she gets at Everton, an inexperienced director of finance. Oh, and a former player who basically just does as he's told.

The day to day running of the club is unbelievably bad. That's the main reason Bill claimed they're 'revered.' Classic misdirection, knowing that a least a fair portion of our fanbase would get a warm fuzzy feeling hearing good old Bill (One of us!) tell us comforting lies like that.

I can't get my head around it. Moshiri simply can't be an idiot, yet his lack of control over the goings on at Everton make me have doubts.

He should immediately appoint a new Chief Exec, appoint at least an Interim Chairperson and let them lead the business in your absence.

I guarantee you Mr. Moshiri, you won't continue to lose money at the current rate.

 

[Papa Shango]

With respect, just 3 of his ‘biggest crimes’ apart from employing managers not up to the job has been…

Not replacing a board that’s unfit for purpose…
Telling us that he has confidence in the unfit for purpose board…
And…
Being coerced by agents into paying well over the odds for bang average players… and giving them crazy salaries…

Racially abusing our best players mum is not even in the top 3.

Takes some doing that.

 

[Toff33Blues99]

Probably easier to list things that they aren’t protesting about mate.

Here’s a few ‘misteps’ that suggest the club isn’t in the best hands in case you missed them over the last few years:
- Owner that’s wasted £500m
- Owner that makes a knob of himself on Talksport
- Owner the appoints DOFs then undermines them
- Owner that’s swayed by scumbag agents on transfers
- Owner that sacks a manager every 3 weeks
- Dreadful squad
- Financially hamstrung by appalling financial management
- Joke of a CEO
- Worst Chairman in the clubs history clinging on to power
- Nearly relegated last year
- Going into a season with a weaker squad than that which escaped the drop with just one game to spare

He didn't waste it, the managers and the 2 dof did
A lot of owners are swayed by agents
Squad is a manager problem not his
Tell me why he is the worst chairman in history?
Relegated, again is a football matter, you seem confused between the 2
He doesn't sack every one 3 weeks, if anything he give them 2 much time
Season hasn't started so invalid.

Of them mentioned, only the financial management I would agree with. I do find it surprising an accountant has got us here, I assume AU and him had a plan but obviously that had to be put on hold.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Nope, why would I?
I am not sure what they are protesting, because every protest in the past has been an absent owner not prepared to spend. Moshiri clearly is not this, he has done what he promised, spend money and deliver a new stadium. His biggest crime is employing managers not up to the job. All of which apart from that tub of lard last season got fans backing upon arrival.
Has he messed up, yes he has. I don't see the next owners spending anywhere near that money

No, his biggest mistakes are the way recruitment has been handled and how much we have overpaid for below average players.

Yeah the Allardyce and Benitez appointments were utterly ridiculous, but not even Carlo Ancelotti could get much our of these players.

 

[ToffeeTim]

He didn't waste it, the managers and the 2 dof did
A lot of owners are swayed by agents
Squad is a manager problem not his
Tell me why he is the worst chairman in history?
Relegated, again is a football matter, you seem confused between the 2
He doesn't sack every one 3 weeks, if anything he give them 2 much time
Season hasn't started so invalid.

Of them mentioned, only the financial management I would agree with. I do find it surprising an accountant has got us here, I assume AU and him had a plan but obviously that had to be put on hold.

The owner takes ultimate responsibility for the actions of the people they hire. That's how business works. If you don't want responsibility then don't be a boss or business owner.

And I don't think it's fair to say that our DOFs and managers had full control over transfers either. We've heard things in the media, comments from Brands about how Farhad would ring him up about a player, comments from Moshiri about how he scouted Cenk Tosun etc. I don't think it's unfair to say he has been too involved in recruitment for someone with an apparent lack of football expertise.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Umming and ahhing about going tomorrow to be honest

Not against the idea, I just don't think I can make the timing work

I definitely agree that Moshiri needs to shape up or ship out though

 

[bring back the catt]

He didn't waste it, the managers and the 2 dof did
A lot of owners are swayed by agents
Squad is a manager problem not his
Tell me why he is the worst chairman in history?
Relegated, again is a football matter, you seem confused between the 2
He doesn't sack every one 3 weeks, if anything he give them 2 much time
Season hasn't started so invalid.

Of them mentioned, only the financial management I would agree with. I do find it surprising an accountant has got us here, I assume AU and him had a plan but obviously that had to be put on hold.

Your second line says it all, vis; 'A lot of owners are swayed by agents':

Tell me, just how many have been swayed to the ridiculous degree of Moshiri into ad-hoc purchases of players? Players unsuited to the club for either personality fit or to perform in a particular style of play? Then offer unbelievably long contracts for unbelievably huge salaries?

One of the most recent ones is the owner of QPR, and look what happened to them. Even so, he learnt from his errors and now has the club functioning again quite well. Yet we still didn't learn from his mistake.

 

[bring back the catt]

Now bill is a dictator, is there no end to his talent

I think the correct question should be, 'is there no beginning to his talent'

 

[Simon Buttle]

Your second line says it all, vis; 'A lot of owners are swayed by agents':

Tell me, just how many have been swayed to the ridiculous degree of Moshiri into ad-hoc purchases of players? Players unsuited to the club for either personality fit or to perform in a particular style of play? Then offer unbelievably long contracts for unbelievably huge salaries?

One of the most recent ones is the owner of QPR, and look what happened to them. Even so, he learnt from his errors and now has the club functioning again quite well. Yet we still didn't learn from his mistake.

Think the Godfrey transfer sums it up for me tbh. Brands only ever wanted to loan the player yet the board just went and ahead and regardless and payed a full fee.

 

[davek]

I'll say it again: simplify the message.

This group can make their message wide ranging but also ineffective by taking aim at too many targets.

The target that looms large is lack of transfer activity and the sale of players. That message hammered hard right now wins a lot of support to the 27 lot's side.

But if you start agitating around the owner and the board and demanding their dismissal it all looks a bit like a front page of the Socialist Worker, demanding a general strike every couple of weeks or so. It's well wide of the mark as a demand when most Everton fans are happy to be ensconced still in the PL with a clean slate for the new season AND the vast majority are still mesmersised by what's happening at the docks and are prepared to give the owner and the board a free pass on that basis.

To win a war you have to win key battles along the way, you dont just declare you want the enemy to surrender, that's not realistic.

It's all very naive this messaging. I've thought so from the start.

 

[bring back the catt]

I've been critical of Moshiri on here for the last few years. I think it was clear he didn't have a clue how to strategically run a football club. However, a lot of fans where happy because he was spending money and winning the 'transfer window'.

Real issue here is that Covid and Usmanov sanctions look to have caught up with the club's finances. The strategic mismanagement of the football side of the club, and it's financial implication, was probably manageable long term in normal circumstances. The short term, non-footballing factors, have completed turned that on it's head.

I see the good intentions of protesting Moshiri but those protests should have come a few years ago when it was clear Moshiri didn't have a clue and money was being poured down the drain. Any current protest feels too late. Too reactionary to the current financial situation we find ourselves in. A financial situation mainly of our own doing and one some fans revelled in when the money was being spent (nothing wrong in that per se but any long term vision could see things weren't great and heading in the wrong direction despite the investments).

What are the current protests wanting to achieve? Spend more money off transfers this summer? Remove Moshiri? I'm not sure what the goal is and how a protest helps. Though I'm fully supportive and understanding of the level of frustration for the current situation. It just feels like a protest that is too late and the issues we find ourselves in are here to stay.

Third paragraph stating protests should have come a few years ago is very true. What is more true is the fact there weren't any protests, and the club has regressed. So how will not having a protest now miraculously repair this ineptitude?
I have no idea if this latest protest will have any significant effect on Moshiri, but he has reacted in the past to fan unrest. So who knows? Not I, and that's a fact. What I do know is, doing nothing about a bad situation means it usually becomes a worse situation in almost every incidence.

 

[Axlswhk]

This notice was issued earlier by the 27 Years Campaign…

PRESS RELEASE from 27 Campaign. Fan protest Goodison Park Saturday 23rd July 12 Noon BST

The 27 Campaign have organised a fan protest on Saturday 23rd July near the Holy Trinity statue, Goodison Park, starting at 12 noon.

The campaign continues to ask Farhad Moshiri to Engage, Listen and Act. It is important to understand why the Campaign focuses on Farhad Moshiri.

As the 94% shareholder he is the person responsible for appointing the Chairman and board of Everton FC.
The 27 Campaign believe that the current leadership of Everton including the Chairman, board and executive, fall well below the requirements of a modern football club, in terms of skills, commercial experience, governance and ambition.

This conclusion is evidenced by the complete mismanagement of footballing operations (only now being addressed through Kevin Thelwell, Frank Lampard and his team), the financial performance of the club (leading to record losses & significant restrictions on current and future transfer activities) and concerns over the future ownership and funding of the club including Bramley-Moore stadium.

More timely, with only two weeks to the start of the season, the club finds itself struggling in the transfer market, having sold its key playing asset in Richarlison and no indications of the squad strengthening desperately needed by the manager and fans.

Recent responses issued by the club on behalf of Farhad Moshiri have failed to allay concerns. They do not represent engagement and show no evidence of him listening to the concerns of many fans.

The protest on Saturday is timed to provide a reminder to Farhad Moshiri of many fan’s concerns. It’s also set for the last available weekend before the start of the new season.

The 27 Campaign does not believe with the scheduled “Match for Peace” friendly versus Dynamo Kyiv next Friday, that it would be appropriate to hold a protest around what is a high profile, highly charged and important football match with a significance far beyond a pre-season friendly.

The Campaign calls on as many Evertonians as possible to demonstrate their concern over the running of the football club under Farhad Moshiri and his board.

We ask that it is a protest that demonstrates the best of all Evertonians, passionate objections to the manner in which the club is led whilst providing full hearted, fanatical support for the manager and our players.

The team will need our support throughout another potentially testing season, the club requires the support of all Evertonians in getting Farhad Moshiri to Engage, Listen and Act.

The Act ultimately is either replacing the board and executive team (including Chairman) or allowing new owners to purchase the club and provide the leadership and direction so desperately needed.

More like a kenwrong protest to be honest. Long overdue.