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4 points off 4th

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Disagree, the head to head battles with the teams around us are the six pointers and will decide if we make 4th or 5th. If we lose the 4 big ones that's it in my opinion.

I don't see how that goes against what i just said lid.

If we drew every away game and won all four home games we'd have 17 points from 27. That's Champions League form.
 
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I don't see how that goes against what i just said lid.

If we drew every away game and won all four home games we'd have 17 points from 27. That's Champions League form.

You said we don't even have to win the away games. They're the games that will prove crucial we take 3 points they miss out on 3 points. 6 pointers.
 
Winning at Arsenal is a must, I think. Draw at the least. That's our game in hand and our nearest competition. I just want to put ourselves in a position where the last game of the year means something. Chelsea do not have an easy run in, and their form under Benitez has been up and down. They're quite capable of losing games they should win (like us to be fair).
 
You said we don't even have to win the away games. They're the games that will prove crucial we take 3 points they miss out on 3 points. 6 pointers.

Yes and if we draw all of them then they're not 6 pointers.

As i said, if we draw all of the aways and win our home games we'll finish 5th or higher.

It's a myth that we have to win the away games to get Europe.
 

Ok. I'll try to say it again.

Over the season, win your homes games and average a point away and you are in fine fettle. The reality is you do not need to do that to get into Europe. If we did that from here we would end up on 65 points, which would be a good season.

IMWT.....and I do.
 
Going to be very tough, but at least we are playing the teams around us meaning that it is kind of (although optimistically) in our own hands
 

Yes and if we draw all of them then they're not 6 pointers.

As i said, if we draw all of the aways and win our home games we'll finish 5th or higher.

It's a myth that we have to win the away games to get Europe.

And we are Already 4 points behind Chelsea who have a game in hand 6 behind Spurs. We need to take maximum points directly from them to be within a real good chance of displacing either of them. It's no good relying on others to take the points from them.
 
It's in our hands. Can't see us finishing better than fifth though. Problem is, if we put a good run together over the next 6 games to put us back in a CL place then we'll have Liverpool away, West Ham at home and Chelsea away. With the pressure on, how would we cope with those three fixtures ?

Regardless of what Chelsea and Tottenham do, Arsenal and Liverpool have easier run ins to the season too. My heart tells me we can get a CL spot, but my head tells my heart it's a stupid t^sser.

It's on ffs !!!
 
Sorry but pointing out math (we're 4 points off 4th at the moment), and pointing out that we have games with 3 of the 5 teams above us in the table providing an opportunity to move up isn't exactly Kopite behavior Tubey. Sorry you feel that way.

Tell you what, I'll start a 500th thread bashing Kenwright or ****ging off our players, our manager, our fans, etc.

Whatever. "It's on" then etc.
 
It's in our hands. Can't see us finishing better than fifth though. Problem is, if we put a good run together over the next 6 games to put us back in a CL place then we'll have Liverpool away, West Ham at home and Chelsea away. With the pressure on, how would we cope with those three fixtures ?
Regardless of what Chelsea and Tottenham do, Arsenal and Liverpool have easier run ins to the season too. My heart tells me we can get a CL spot, but my head tells my heart it's a stupid t^sser.

It's on ffs !!!

We'd be in a fantastic position to get finish in the top 3. FFS lads 3rd place is still up for grabs aswell. It's well and truely ON!
 

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