6 + 2 Point Deductions

[blueloon]

To be fair they are limited in what they can say due to the appeal. To be honest it went further than I expected it to

I took it to mean the response to the charges, which were pretty poor in some instances like trying to including the Transfer Levy as a “ Youth” thing and like it only applied to us. .

 

[James Roberts]

If this was City, Chelsea or the RS there would have been far more made of this.

Keeping our heads down ahead of an appeal isn't the way to go about this. We should be kicking and screaming about this, its a farce.

Going along with any concept of respecting the process of appeal isn't worth talking about, the whole process is a kangaroo court and we should be calling it out for what it is.

how can we.. we have no owners...If moshiri speaks out he is going to get called out for being a fraud...also he is trying to sell the club he wont want to comment...its like finding asbestos in a house you are trying to sell.. you just keep quiet and let the next owner deal with it

 

[Sussex]

So we have two major wars going on in the world and the BBC run with Everton breaking ffp.

Everton that.

 

[Tipp blue]

Reality is, its not a 20 million overspend though.

It was way more than that.

Doesn't matter what the reality is.. the commissions findings were 19.5 million over... the punishment is based on the findings.

 

[Ring master]

You can bet ur backside City and Chelsea won't get "Relegated" or a point deduction, they'll get a £25m fine or something ludicrous which is peanuts to them.

Going by the "We got punished" with points, because of having a rich owner, they should go into oblivion lol

 

[duncs pigeon]

The only positive I can take from it is, if we were 10pts down at the beginning of the season, we might not have had the fight to catch up. So atm we are basically level with the others, psycologially we can finish out of the bottom three.

 

[Blue peter]

You can bet ur backside City and Chelsea won't get "Relegated" or a point deduction, they'll get a £25m fine or something ludicrous which is peanuts to them.

Generally speaking they could be deducted double our points and most likely wouldn’t drop into the relegation zone (irrespective of where they are at the moment)

 

[gwladysnight]

^ this.

The fact that someone or a number of people at board / leadership level thought that an intra-company loan from the stadium company to the football company to cover interest payments on loans that are publicly available agreements stipulate what the money can be used for and is charged against, is absolutely scandalous.

It's negligence of the highest level.

And then those people that signed off on those agreements didn't even bother to give evidence to the comission.

Suppose one of them must have been in a headlock at the time.

You can now understand why BDO didn't want to sign off on the accounts.

 

[James Roberts]

“The greatest show on earth”…

this could be one of the best seasons in football...If other teams start backing our appeal due to the treatment of the super league 6... it could be seen as the start of bringing true football back...

 

[PeregrineT]

so we’re doomed or not?

I wouldnt say it looks good, in reality we were really screwed in 2021 when we were told we couldnt exclude the 50m+ in stadium costs, and our stadium costs would have to count towards the clubs P&S.

Id lean towards doomed(to have to have a points deduction).
1. Even if the rules were absolutely stupid, they may have still been the rules we agreed to(like the August 2021 agreement with the league).
2. Then, when the board sent the revision to the commission, they admitted fault and said we were over, but just by 7m. Hard to appeal if you admit fault.
3. Then the last matter is the severity of the punishment. If the commission is correct and the EFL recommends 12 points as the starting point, reduced by mitigating factors(they found our only mitigating factor was how we have been better in recent years), and the premier league has 6 points as a basis, going up for every 5 million over 105m, itll be awfully hard to reduce points very much.

The one hope they may have on appeal to get the points down to a lower number is the fact that the commission expressly said they were rejecting the premier leagues proposed guidelines on points for the sake of showing they are an independent commission that doesn't need to do that, and has wide latitude on punishments......and then gave 10 points which is EXACTLY what the premier league guidelines are(6 points, plus 1 for every 5 mill over).

 

[Blue peter]

i’m going to the FA headquarters to sit on a chair and go on a hunger strike

Until tea time

 

[Ring master]

i’m going to the FA headquarters to sit on a chair and go on a hunger strike

Do you even know how to leave your house lol

 

[roydo]

Why.. could have called out the PL as corrupt an organisation who bowed to the cries of you can't punish the fans when it was the scab 6 only to punish the fans of a club who spent a little bit more than allowed.

As EFC are one of the 20 PL clubs, not sure that would play well in an appeal.

 

[Amw79]

Why.. could have called out the PL as corrupt an organisation who bowed to the cries of you can't punish the fans when it was the scab 6 only to punish the fans of a club who spent a little bit more than allowed.

Nah, think the club feel they need to be a bit more cagey and not burn bridges, with an appeal still to be heard.

The fans on the other hand, can absolutely make our voices heard against United.

 

[Moomin]

Doesn't matter what the reality is.. the commissions findings were 19.5 million over... the punishment is based on the findings.

Did we break the rules? Yes we did.

Only thing we can do is appeal about the level of punishment.

Which is what they expected. It will get reduced to 6 or 5 points and we will accept that as a victory.

It's been a classic example of grandstanding us.