6 + 2 Point Deductions

[Yarrgh]

Remember when we were experts in virology then had a wide range of knowledge in Former Soviet states relationships

I have a cough and my wife is moaning about Estonia (do not ask) so I like to think I've stayed in touch with the subjects.

 

[BlueToff]

To the 'Independent' commission I'd guess. They have 2 weeks to lodge the appeal.

It's to the Premier League, and then another independent KC will be appointed, who will - in theory - appoint another panel to go through the appeal.

 

[PITA]

The points deduction is a disgrace and should be reduced on appeal, as many have said this surely opens other teams to bigger punishments. But unfortunately this league is too corrupt to hand out proper punishments to City & Chelsea.

I think though is could be the best thing for our Goodison form as this will galvanise the fan base in one direction for the first time in a long while. I can see it being torture for Manu utd and hopefully other teams that come now before the end of the season as we fight fight fight. COYB!!

Like to think so but we'll probably lose to them as we do most of the time. As ever, Martial will probably score.

 

[Joey66]

From the judgement.

Everton acknowledged in the course of the
hearing that the PSR calculation included claims that were novel, some of
which were persisted with in Everton’s Answer but were subsequently
abandoned shortly before the hearing. We have already found Everton’s
conduct not to be in compliance with the obligation of utmost good faith
imposed by Rule B15.

and again.

The obligation to act in utmost good faith is high. As we have observed
above, at the initial stages of consideration of a PSR submission the Premier
League will be dependent on the accuracy of the information supplied by the
submitting club. In this case the information supplied by Everton was
materially inaccurate.

and again.

Further, Everton was
less than frank in its dealings with the Premier League over the stadium
interest issue.


The clowns in charge tried to blag it, inevitably got caught and the club and fans are paying the price of Moshir's mismanagement. The unbelievable bit is that whilst the auditors have walked away, DBB and Sharp are unwilling to give evidence probably after taking legal advice and Moshiri is desperately trying to sell up. We still have fans ignoring the evidence and looking to blame the Premier League and the commission. Lets face it Moshiri and the board are guilty of breathtaking mismanagement.


Again from the findings.


137. It helps to stand back from all the detail that has been put before us and to see
the overall picture. Everton’s PSR difficulties are not attributable to the costs
of the stadium development. Those costs were excluded from the PSR
calculation in respect of the period before planning permission was granted
by reason of the 13 August 2021 agreement, and thereafter by the ability to
capitalise relevant costs by the application of FRS 102. The cause of
Everton’s PSR difficulties was the fact that it overspent (largely on its
purchase of new players and its inability to sell other players), and because it
finished lower in the league than it had projected in FY 2022 (16th against the
projected 6th – causing a loss of expected income of c.£21 million).


We breached P&S because the clowns based our financial projections on finishing 6th. If we had budgeted for finishing 16th we would have passed P&S.

In short we Shouldham never cooperated or handed our books over like City & Chelsea they have taken. Us for fools ......

 

[davek]

It's to the Premier League, and then another independent KC will be appointed, who will - in theory - appoint another panel to go through the appeal.

The Commission sat for 5 days. I don't see why it would take much more than that to get a decision from another one on the issue of the appropriateness of the penalty imposed.

 

[edge]

The Independent Commission rejected the Premier League's formula and came to its own decision. That is because a formula would not allow for mitigating and aggravating factors.

And miraculous agreed to the same outcome as the formula?
Isn't that a coincidence.

 

[Moderatelywarmwater]

We didn't exceed by 20m so why the ten points? Shouldn't it be 9 points?

If you read the report, they say that the reason for the sanction Is that the club (under Moshiri of course) mislead the investigation.
So, how successful that line of appeal will be is doubtful.
Personally I think Moshiri should face a huge financial penalty, I think the investigation is fair enough and he’s the one to blame.
punish him, not us.

 

[davek]

If you read the report, they say that the reason for the sanction Is that the club (under Moshiri of course) mislead the investigation.
So, how successful that line of appeal will be is doubtful.
Personally I think Moshiri should face a huge financial penalty, I think the investigation is fair enough and he’s the one to blame.
punish him, not us.

Its not an appeal just about the transgression, it's also about the penalty imposed.

Sheesh.

 

[gwladysnight]

The independent panel isn't affiliated.

They haven't changed the rules.

They didn't change the timeframe.

The guilty plea wasn't disregarded

We weren't honest and open we tried to mislead them.

They did try and overt a breach Moshiri just ignored their advice and carried on spending.

They didn't disregard legitimate evidence both the Stadium and Glyfi were considered in terms of mitigation.

They haven't encouraged further cases to be heard they have answered a complaint made by 5 clubs.

The penalty is only unprecedented because Moshiri is the only one to be daft enough to break P&S rules. In terms of similar cases in the EFL the punishment is entirely consistent.

 

[davek]

The independent panel isn't affiliated.

They haven't changed the rules.

They didn't change the timeframe.

The guilty plea wasn't disregarded

We weren't honest and open we tried to mislead them.

They did try and overt a breach Moshiri just ignored their advice and carried on spending.

They didn't disregard legitimate evidence both the Stadium and Glyfi were considered in terms of mitigation.

They haven't encouraged further cases to be heard they have answered a complaint made by 5 clubs.

The penalty is only unprecedented because Moshiri is the only one to be daft enough to break P&S rules. In terms of similar cases in the EFL the punishment is entirely consistent.

Daft as a brush.

 

[gwladysnight]

And miraculous agreed to the same outcome as the formula?
Isn't that a coincidence.

It didn't the formula would have been 9 points.

 

[ToffeeTim]

If you read the report, they say that the reason for the sanction Is that the club (under Moshiri of course) mislead the investigation.
So, how successful that line of appeal will be is doubtful.
Personally I think Moshiri should face a huge financial penalty, I think the investigation is fair enough and he’s the one to blame.
punish him, not us.

I don't agree with this because the report clearly says they do not allege the club were dishonest.

 

[gwladysnight]

Daft as a brush.

Can we have less self-analysis please?

 

[MikeH72]

God the tear gas in this thread.

 

[Moderatelywarmwater]

Its not an appeal just about the transgression, it's also about the penalty imposed.

Sheesh.

Once again you’ve loaned your brain out to someone else.
The seriousness of the punishment was not only due to the overspending, it was due to the club (under moshiri) misleading the investigation. That’s why the punishment was so heavy.