6 + 2 Point Deductions

[mahermi1]

I hope the City case brings about huge changes to the rules. Man U have huge amounts of debt, but seem untouchable? How?! The rules aren’t fit for purpose clearly. It sucks that we were punished the way we were, but it would be nice if we able to spend big in the future, without fear of being punished. If a clubs owner has £ to spend, why shouldn’t they be able to spend it? It seems like only the most successful, with the biggest revenue streams, are able to spend big. And we aren’t in that position at present, and might not be for some time yet. The antics of self entitled Man U grind on me much more than the rule breaking of City tbh. The whole thing stinks, changes are needed to make things more competitive again, and punishing City won’t necessarily make that happen.

The rules are fit for purpose, for the purpose of the big 4 or 5 to continue to monopolize the premier league, European football and anything resembling a trophy.

 

[arch stanton]

Surely they can’t keep picking on us whilst the Man City saga drags on and on.
What am I saying, of course they can.

less likely now that we have leaders in place who will fight for their investment. we arent the whipping boys we have been of late

 

[Bebeto]

I'm more bothered about the remaining case hanging over us (to do with the accounting treatment of some interest payments). I wonder when that will be heard? It's all gone very quiet on that front.

Because the pl has no clue...our accounts were cleared by independent auditors, so it's the pl choosing to be picky and applying their own interpretation of stadium loans. They have no chance on that one, and the fact it is dragging tells the full story really.

 

[Eggs]

….we got a 10 point deduction last November, as we’re now well into December I’d be hoping they’ve done their sums by now for the relevant accounting period.

 

[Drico]

Because the pl has no clue...our accounts were cleared by independent auditors, so it's the pl choosing to be picky and applying their own interpretation of stadium loans. They have no chance on that one, and the fact it is dragging tells the full story really.

And we now have new owners will will litigate their asses should the PL try...

 

[PeregrineT]

And we now have new owners will will litigate their asses should the PL try...

Yeah, as embarrassing as the last year was for the PL, it would be an absolute nightmare they don't want to touch. Public opinion would destroy them on it.

 

[blueblood]

Given City’s current form, any deduction of 40 points or more and they’ll be almost certainly relegated. In previous seasons they could have had a 40 point deduction and still finished in the top 10.

 

[Blue peter]

Thinking about the investigations into City, I wonder how in-depth they’ve had to go into individual employees financial affairs. If they’d been paid off the books, via foreign companies, were they paying the right amount of tax etc. Any issues with City may not necessarily end up with the club, it may extend to the employees

 

[formerly manx toffee]

So if the debt has been repaid and then loans converted to equity our PSR position should now be better off by the interest we were paying on those loans. That could be over £50m in the first full year of PSR.

Anyone got any info on this ?

 

[KaiserEFC]

You’d think they’d just give up and try to relegate somebody else at this point wouldn’t you?

 

[blueloon]

….we got a 10 point deduction last November, as we’re now well into December I’d be hoping they’ve done their sums by now for the relevant accounting period.

They changed the period for submitting accounts . I can’t remember the seasons but the 10 points were for 21/22 I think , then we had to submit 22/23 by 31st December and got hit with the extra 2 points deduction. So I think clubs have to submit 23/24 accounts by 31st December and any punishment comes early 2025. Mind you that could be a load of ballcocks.!

 

[Ring master]

They changed the period for submitting accounts . I can’t remember the seasons but the 10 points were for 21/22 I think , then we had to submit 22/23 by 31st December and got hit with the extra 2 points deduction. So I think clubs have to submit 23/24 accounts by 31st December and any punishment comes early 2025. Mind you that could be a load of ballcocks.!

That is true. But by all accounts we supposedly think we are ok, but it would not be the 1st time we may be wrong. but the one we are still waiting on, will have a knock on effect if we are ever found gulity.

 

[blueloon]

That is true. But by all accounts we supposedly think we are ok, but it would not be the 1st time we may be wrong. but the one we are still waiting on, will have a knock on effect if we are ever found gulity.

Yeah they appeared optimistic in June/ July that we were under the limit. I don’t know when they will decide on the outstanding issues on whether interest payments for BMD are or are not allowed.

 

[Ring master]

Yeah they appeared optimistic in June/ July that we were under the limit. I don’t know when they will decide on the outstanding issues on whether interest payments for BMD are or are not allowed.

As someone said a few days ago, if they have already been audited on independally and we were given the ok. It seems the Prem league or whoever are trying to find things that dont exist

 

[Tipp blue]

Yeah they appeared optimistic in June/ July that we were under the limit. I don’t know when they will decide on the outstanding issues on whether interest payments for BMD are or are not allowed.

Amazing that this is still a thing, since they announced that, Leicester have gotten away with PSR on a technicality, Manchester United losing money hand over fist and being allowed to write off standard business expenses to keep out of trouble, If we cant fight off a few million in interest payments given what's gone on since then we deserve to be anal fisted by the PL.

Finance expert says Man United would have breached PSR last season

Last season, Everton were sanctioned twice by the Premier League for falling foul of their financial restrictions, with the Toffees being deducted a total of eight points for two separate charges.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Leicester City win their appeal against alleged breach of Premier League PSR

Premier League says it is surprised and disappointed, while Leicester have welcomed the decision; the independent panel found Leicesters accounting period ended on June 30 2023 after they were relegated - meaning the Premier League did not have jurisdiction to punish them

www.skysports.com