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6 + 2 Point Deductions

I always thought money in/money out was part of it? Say we go down this season and don't come back up, wouldn't £30m going out in the next financial year accounts and a lot less income cause problems when the EFL calculate our losses?

No, that isn't how transfers are accounted for - it doesn't matter if you pay it all up front or you pay nothing up front and pay on the drip. Every transfer, from the point of view of the accounts, works the same way. A £20 million transfer for a player on a 5 year contract will cost you £4m per year on the accounts.

We have no more or less to worry about, from an accounting perspective, next year if we went down than we would if we stayed up (other than being subject to tighter rules on losses etc).

Common misconception - you have to separate the two things out. Accounts are separate from cash flow. The Beto deal is all about cash flow and nothing to do with clever accounting.
 
Look a the box of snakes this whole thing has opened up... Every team in the country is being investigated for something... I'd be quite happy right now to be witness to football eating itself.
To be honest, most clubs will a closet full of skeletons. I just wonder if the PL, by charging us, has opened up a pandora's box. I am sure there are a few directors/chairman up and down the country sweating a bit.

If we go, then a hatful of clubs come with us.
 
The FA has said it is prepared to review evidence of potentially serious breaches of agent rules in a transfer involving Tottenham Hotspur, Portsmouth and Jermain Defoe.

An investigation has found that during a private hearing concerning the transfer of Defoe to Spurs in 2008, it emerged that Defoe, Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy and Harry Redknapp, all dealt with an unlicensed agent.

Breaches of FA agent rules have led to clubs being deducted points and bans for directors. Luton Town were deducted 10 points for breaking Agent Regulations.

Independent experts have told The Times that a failure to comply with these regulations should be regarded as an extremely serious matter, potentially leading to heavy sanctions.

Clubs can be hit with a transfer ban, a points deduction or even relegation.
@thetimes
 
All comes down us being nice little old honest Everton again.
I honestly blame this mindset for our current predicament. I think Kenwright thought he had enought friends or pull or what have you, and he wanted to perpetuate this Everton being the shining city on the hill nonsense that he said let's cooperate and show we aren't like these other clubs. We're everton, we do things the right way and all his other sentimental drivel.

Unfortunately for us, no one outside of Everton cares about virtue or "the right way". They care about money. They will do whatever they think is necessary to protect that cash flow, and will hurt anyone who might get in the way.
 

Matt Hughes
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No, that isn't how transfers are accounted for - it doesn't matter if you pay it all up front or you pay nothing up front and pay on the drip. Every transfer, from the point of view of the accounts, works the same way. A £20 million transfer for a player on a 5 year contract will cost you £4m per year on the accounts.

We have no more or less to worry about, from an accounting perspective, next year if we went down than we would if we stayed up (other than being subject to tighter rules on losses etc).

Common misconception - you have to separate the two things out. Accounts are separate from cash flow. The Beto deal is all about cash flow and nothing to do with clever accounting.
Excellent for us

Wonder how Udinese feel with all the uncertainty around our takeover and debts though...
 

The FA has said it is prepared to review evidence of potentially serious breaches of agent rules in a transfer involving Tottenham Hotspur, Portsmouth and Jermain Defoe.

An investigation has found that during a private hearing concerning the transfer of Defoe to Spurs in 2008, it emerged that Defoe, Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy and Harry Redknapp, all dealt with an unlicensed agent.

Breaches of FA agent rules have led to clubs being deducted points and bans for directors. Luton Town were deducted 10 points for breaking Agent Regulations.

Independent experts have told The Times that a failure to comply with these regulations should be regarded as an extremely serious matter, potentially leading to heavy sanctions.

Clubs can be hit with a transfer ban, a points deduction or even relegation.
@thetimes
The ball is rolling now, isn’t it?

It’s going to be hard to stop - especially with multiple breaches coming to light concurrently like this.

What’s happened to Everton is fresh in everyone’s mind, so the pressure is on the PL to deliver proportional punishment to every offender now.

To save an apocalypse, they either treat the other clubs differently in a very publicly unfair way on Everton - or they back down. They may be thinking it’s in the league’s interest to cool Everton’s punishment down at appeal. That would be the sensible choice.

We’ll see. Either way, I don’t get the impression the league thought any of the implications of this extreme punishment through.
 

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