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brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
Our problem, or perhaps opportunity, with a can of worms being opened up is that it incentivises The PL to put a lid on further hearings and potential further hearings.
Not to mention claims and counter claims. It's just we were a very convenient option to make a statement with and an example of. A test case.
The club's statement on Friday was bang on in referencing this. Let's have proportionate punishment for all where warranted, and charges brought where necessary. If that doesn't occur, or is being put on the long-finger, then it's likely that by the time the appeal is heard, we'll still be the only club to have faced a hearing and receive a sanction.
I think we have a multitude of arguments to put forward, the severity of the sanction and failure to act in a coherent and transparent way against other offending clubs, being foremost amongst them.
I can't believe The PL wish this as the start of a period of continuous hearings and member clubs threatening legal action against each other. The logical end of that is it's eventual destruction.
If they wish to avoid that premise, and mark this as a line in the sand, then our punishment simply cannot stand as it is. It must either be drastically reduced or undone completely. Everton cannot be the scapegoat for a myriad of ills.
Not to mention claims and counter claims. It's just we were a very convenient option to make a statement with and an example of. A test case.
The club's statement on Friday was bang on in referencing this. Let's have proportionate punishment for all where warranted, and charges brought where necessary. If that doesn't occur, or is being put on the long-finger, then it's likely that by the time the appeal is heard, we'll still be the only club to have faced a hearing and receive a sanction.
I think we have a multitude of arguments to put forward, the severity of the sanction and failure to act in a coherent and transparent way against other offending clubs, being foremost amongst them.
I can't believe The PL wish this as the start of a period of continuous hearings and member clubs threatening legal action against each other. The logical end of that is it's eventual destruction.
If they wish to avoid that premise, and mark this as a line in the sand, then our punishment simply cannot stand as it is. It must either be drastically reduced or undone completely. Everton cannot be the scapegoat for a myriad of ills.
PhilEFC
Player Valuation: £35m
What?! The woman with links to Leeds and the director from West Ham?!
Infernus
Player Valuation: £8m
This is another one they haven’t thought through. Demand that Everton give compensation out, and you will have pretty much every club in the country taking each other to court for compensation. Arsenal could take us to court as they missed out on the title by losing to us. We lost an FA cup final to cheats Chelsea. We lost out on Europe by losing to cheats Man City. This just opens Pandora’s box. How they will close this can of worms that has been opened by stupidly deducting points from Everton I’m not sure.
Tony’s Carp
Player Valuation: £50m
Procedurally this is a big laughable but this might be good for us. This panel stated that any advantage gained “cannot be quantified” so if they are consistent to their own ruling they can’t quantify what would have happened without the 19.5m overspend. I don’t see how the same panel could consistently award compensation on the basis of hypotheticals.
Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
My only presumption is that Everton COULD face further penalties. That's a statement based on the last 2 yrs losses, our prevailing financial state and increasing interest payments on various high interest loans. That might even be ignoring the prospect of any action taken by other clubs. Hopefully not!
Yes, the club rightly claimed Covid costs, the contention from other clubs was how Everton's was higher than ALL other clubs (including clubs with far higher turnovers). That's in a total of 250m losses that have been struck off PSR consideration. The club is not disputing its culpability. At best their submission is still in excess and I assume that they know more about their figures than either of us.
No woman was on the panel.
GP_Monty
Player Valuation: £8m
Suspect any formal challenge of the punishment will be thrown out, don't the guidelines explain exactly why it's 10 points deducted or am I reading this wrong? 6 points for the breach then a point for every £5m over the threshold (you could argue it should be 9 points if splitting hairs over the £0.5m)
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
Considering they created an off-the-cuff punishment scale weeks before the hearing, I'm sure they will have no issue in creating an ad-hoc formula on the scale of any payouts.
Infernus
Player Valuation: £8m
It does, yes. But our point will be that they are making it up as they go along. The premier league wanted us deducted points, and behold, this sliding scale was suddenly come up with after, not before we were up before the commission. That is more than a little bit suspicious
Those are EFL rules mate not PL. They were not used... lots of confusion over this.
Azza
Player Valuation: £80m
There is no woman on the commission. She works at the PL and apparently was part of the PL panel to decide whether or not an independant Commission should investigate. It's just Twitter nonsense claiming she had any involvement in the point deduction.
The Premier League, and by PL I mean all the clubs as a whole as they would have voted for these rule changes, decided on this formula being the new standard after the Commission started.
The Commission states that by following the rules they have been asked to adere too they are allowed to formulate a punishment of their own choosing. They state that if the PL wanted or want future Commissions to follow this standard then the PL just has to change the rules to which the Commission abides.
It's just a happy coincidence that the punishment is close to what the new PL policy would be.
Iana
Player Valuation: £1.5m
I thought they were PL new rules that the commission considered but discounted and then came up with a 10 point deduction broadly the same as the rules.
They discounted them so as to not to compromise their “independence”…funny they came up with the same outcome.
The EFL start at 12 points and reduce for accepted mitigations.
PeregrineT
Player Valuation: £35m
Yeeesss....Let it all burn down. The PL can reap what they have sowed, I look forward to all of the stories starting to leak out about what they have tried to hide over the years.