6 + 2 Point Deductions

[Dario Terracotta]

They really don't like us do they?

 

[GrandOldSte117]

What I don't get is just how incompetent is the club to have not known this was coming again? I can forgive being blindsided the first time but what on earth are our staff doing to not know we've breached this time

Why do you think they didn't know? They've just hired a super lawyer

 

[coollino]

Another 10 point deduction apparently.

I genuinely fear for the future of the club.

It would be good fun on here tbh

 

[ToffeeTim]

Would anyone truly care if we were relegated because of a 20 point deduction? Because they shouldn’t. It’d be quite obvious that they’re trying to get rid of us any which way necessary and it’s completely futile hoping to resist against it.

I would care but I would be able to accept it because I'd know it was totally undeserved.

If we go down with 2 points deductions then the credibility of the league is gone in any case.

Anyone looking at this objectively will tell that we haven't been treated fairly and that the process is a farce.

 

[formerly manx toffee]

So we’ve spent basically nothing for 3 years but still allegedly breached the rules. Other clubs have spent hundreds of millions but that’s sound. The entire thing is a disgrace. It’s not fit for purpose at best, and corrupt at worse.

Feels like there’s more to this than meets the eye though, they’re absolutely desperate to relegate us. My best guess is that they’re embarrassed they could never nail us for Usmanov and feel very silly and want payback.

If they hit us with more points deductions I’m genuinely done with footy because I simply can’t get behind the sport anymore.

We need working capital every month

 

[zook]

In the Martin Samuel bit yesterday

Condemning Everton and Forest a bit rich when rules set to be scrapped

Changing profit and sustainability rules in August is a tacit admission that, in the present state, they are no longer fit for purpose

www.thetimes.co.uk

Focusing more on the wages to turnover ratio may not be too great for us going off past years where we've repeatedly been basically spending all our turonover on wages

 

[EFC_FRANCIS]

Going to be so funny if forest get a fine and we get whacked with another point deduction for being a repeat offender

 

[pfim]

This club has been run by the largest cohort of morons anyone is likely to see in their lifetime.

 

[Baggzio]

The thing is we’re the ones being punished, not Moshiri, not Kenwright, not anyone else but the fans.

I have no problem saying that we’re a terribly run club but how have the Premier League allowed it to happen to us? They should be responsible for making sure that a football club such as ours doesn’t fall into completely avoidable situations like this. Make no mistake this will kill the club, and I mean extinction.

I honestly believe in decades once the Premier League itself is no more people will look back on us being the first domino to fall. How can the governing body of football allow one of the world’s most successful and historic clubs go bust, all while shielding the manufactured clubs like Chelsea, City and no doubt Newcastle soon, 3 clubs who before they got their dodgy money wouldn’t be a fraction as successful as Everton, combined.

Like others have said if these people behind the club had any bottle they’d threaten to resign from the league, we’re going down regardless if we get another deduction, I say make the whole thing a circus level farce on a global scale. The 6 clubs that these rules were made to protect got a lesser punishment combined for trying to kill the league, I say we try to kill it now ourselves.

 

[EFC_FRANCIS]

Why do you think they didn't know? They've just hired a super lawyer

They hired a super lawyer for the appeal.

 

[Lapeno77]

Financial Fair Play (FFP)

Probably just fine us the £15 million extra we got for Brennan Johnson by selling him after the FFP deadline Might as well have kept him if the timing of that sale is the issue.

www.forestforum.co.uk

Forest fan reckons they could get 16pts, which would be interesting

 

[Tony’s Carp]

Massive massive interest costs on massive loans that aren’t in any way relating to the stadium build. We aren’t overspending on players, we are taking loans to survive. So obviously the correct thing to do to protect the fans is relegate us.

Getting hounded to our grave for not being sustainable enough.

 

[Clarky cat]

I’m genuinely concerned for Matt Hughes welfare. I can only imagine he’s in a crumpled heap in his mums box room with red raw palms after nearly ripping his Johnson off. Such a shame.

 

[jazzy]

I'm lost for words

Make your mind up David.
A defence is when you believe that you are innocent. Mitigation on the other hand is an acknowledgement that you are guilty but sets out the reasons for the breach and why a punishment should be at a lower end of the scale.
These journalists take us for idiots.

 

[Moomin]

Clubs like Fulham have a debt of like 150mil over the last few years. Villa is close to 400mil West Ham about 300mil.
It’s just mental how it’s only us.

They don't have a wages to turnover ratio of just under 90%

There debt could be longterm while ours is over a few years.

The Rights Media loans are based on the TV money so guessing they will be taking in the region of 40 million of that. We will be starting each year on a massive loss.