I have a friend who works for Sunday Times and without going into too much, she said they’ve been working on this investigation for 4 years and his legal team have until now always been able to prevent them publishing it.
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That would perhaps work if, during more chivalrous times, instances of sexual abuse were lower, which wasn't the case. It also has to be remembered that most instances of sexual abuse occur in supposedly loving relationships.
NilSatisOptimum
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Love a trail by media as it makes Police and CPS job so much harder to get justice for alleged victims. Always the compliant willing mob who unwittingly or wittingly aid the alleged perpetrator to get off from their crimes.
NilSatisOptimum
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Be interesting to know if they ever tried to hand this evidence over to the police such is the gravity of his criminal activity...
Rita_Poon
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Sounds like his legal team have suppressed quite a few stories over the years, he's been protected so long as he's been earning. Mentioned the weinstein case earlier, it was the sheer number of similar instances amongst actresses that broke the dam and then came the flood of evidence. I reckon the victims in the investigation televised last night will be the tip of the ice berg, and for someone so averse to rubbers, it wouldn't surprise me if one of his conquests ended up up the duff. (not all the ladies brand was knocking boots with will have been victims, there'll have been willing consensual star shaggers only to happy for a bit of a roll in the hay)
The law says the documentary could be shown so long as the target was informed before hand by eight days. This is interesting because he waited for seven days then aired his badly edited podcast/rebuttal.
giggs had his super injunctions, and thankfully he's finished now as well.
NilSatisOptimum
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Sorry not buying his legal team stopped the Times/ Dispatches and evidence going to the police, utterly ridiculous.
Clear to me the likes of Brand Tate Wilson and Fox excetra have won, so many opposed to them have jumped on trial by media because they are ideologically against in what they stand for and have thrown their due process to the wind and joined the mob, sad to see so many fall into their mob behaviour.
Rita_Poon
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clearly they didn't as it was aired last night.
edit: tate is in a cell, what a winner. fox is unemployable and is estranged from the mother of his kids and to an extent his kids, what a winner. brand aint out the wringer yet and my guess is now toxic, winner! and the wilson you name I'm unsure on.
tsubaki
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The last part I agree with, but for the former all I’d point out there is that many of them weren’t raised properly either.
Not sure that is true tbh.
Cases that I can recall that have been helped, rather than hindered, by investigative media
Harvey Weinstein
In October 2017, The New York Times[60] and The New Yorker[61] reported that more than a dozen women accused Weinstein of sexually harassing, assaulting, or raping them. Many other women in the film industry subsequently reported similar experiences with Weinstein,[62][63][64] who denied "any nonconsensual sex". As a result of these allegations, Weinstein was dismissed from his production company,[65] suspended from the British Academy of Film and Television Arts,[66] and expelled from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.[67] He also resigned from the Directors Guild of America[68] and was denounced by leading figures in politics whom he had supported.[69] The Los Angeles Police Department opened a criminal investigation for alleged rape,[70] and New York and London police began investigating other sexual assault allegations.[71] On October 10, 2017, Weinstein's wife, Georgina Chapman, announced that she was leaving him;[72] their divorce was finalized in July 2021.[73]
The sexual abuse allegations precipitated a wave of "national reckoning" against sexual harassment and assault in the United States[74] known as the Weinstein effect. Compounded by other sexual harassment cases earlier in the year, the Weinstein reports and subsequent #MeToo hashtag campaign, which encouraged individuals to share their suppressed stories of sexual misconduct, created a cavalcade of allegations across multiple industries that brought about the swift ouster of many men in positions of power both in the United States and, as it spread, around the world.[75][76] In 2019, the documentary Untouchable was released with interviews from several of his accusers.[77]
Weinstein was charged by the New York County District Attorney's Office with "rape, criminal sex act, sex abuse and sexual misconduct for incidents involving two separate women" on May 25, 2018. He was arrested the same day after surrendering to the New York City Police Department (NYPD).[3]
R Kelly
R. Kelly - Wikipedia
Julis Brown’s reporting on Epstein and the sweetheart initial deal he got was a significant reason why investigations i to him were reopened.
Brown received a second George Polk Award in the category of Justice Reporting in 2018 for her investigative journalism on "Perversion of Justice."[3] Her series covered the extensive number of accusers in the Epstein case and the role of federal prosecutor Alex Acosta who permitted a non-prosecution agreement that protected four named conspirators and "granted immunity to any possible co-conspirators, a proviso that seemed to protect the powerful men Epstein partied with."[1][3][2]
In April 2019, Alan Dershowitz (an associate of Epstein who was one of his attorneys during his criminal investigation in 2006-2008) tried to pressure the Pulitzer prize committee to shut out Brown and the Miami Herald for her investigative reporting that reopened the Epstein case.[18][unreliable source?] In an open letter Dershowitz wrote that Brown should not be rewarded for her work. She was not.[19][20] At the start of her investigative reporting on Epstein, Brown had been warned by former Police Chief Michael Reiter to expect pushback as other members of the media who attempted to report on Epstein had been reassigned following a phone call to their publisher.[13] Reiter stated “Somebody’s going to call your publisher and the next thing you know you are going to be assigned to the obituaries department.”[13]
tsubaki
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I think you are on the wrong track here.
The allegations against Brand (and others) absolutely should be dealt with in a court of law, under a fair process and with impartiality. There’s fundamental unfairness in presenting only one sides views, especially when anonymised, and the fact that nearly all of the media have an underlying interest in profiting off their stories is appalling when we’re talking about allegations of rape and other serious crimes.
The problem is though that even when the Courts are used as they are meant to (as currently with Tate), they say the exact same things about witch hunts etc. There is no format that these people would accept where the allegations against them would ever be properly investigated; Brand and his expensive lawyers will say at the Old Bailey what he said in his video.
What makes it deeply hypocritical is of course that they themselves are more than willing to use the law to silence victims, and to use their media profiles to push wildly inaccurate information about their victims too.
Tucker Carlson and Jordan Peterson too, great bunch of fellas.
Prince Andrew I guess unavailable for comment.
coollino
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Especially with his pic and stuff, very odd
Rita_Poon
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sigh* this stupid stinking country...
and to follow up, even more support from a quite dynamic duo...
state!
Russell Brand: Comedian appears distracted at gig but gets ovation from fans
The comedian performed in London in his first appearance since being accused of rape and sexual assault.
www.bbc.co.uk
and to follow up, even more support from a quite dynamic duo...
state!
Moonlight dribbler
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So why didn't they just go to the police. Then to the crown prosecution service and he could have been in jail by now. Since when did trial by tv become a thing?
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