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Ademola Lookman

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TheBigIguana said:
Again mate I see more than goals and assists. There aren't a ton of goals in football so going just off of them will cause you to miss things. That means getting into positions to score is very important as only constantly getting to those spots, and getting the ball there, will create goals. When you are playing as sporadically as he is the end product will sometimes not come, but he is still doing the other part of it, and he did it here, to suggest if he actually did play a lot it would come around.

None of our other players do those things at a high level.

Also in his whole career he has played like 1800 top flight minutes between here and Germany and has 6 goals and 5 assists, which isn't bad.

For comparison Bernard has 4 and 5 in 3000 minutes, Walcott has 9 and 7 with us in 4200 minutes and Bolasie had 2 and 4 in 1800 minutes. That's all in the league btw. Cup and Europe gets weird with quality of opponent considerations.
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Getting in the positions and not finishing it off with a goal or an assist is worthless as far as putting points on the board goes.


You ain't winning matches because your players get into good positions but do nothing with it.

His stats would be dire if not for his purple patch during the RB loan. I'm not even bothered about judging his time in Germany because it's a completely different league and he never did anything worthwhile for us in the Prem.


I'm fine with saying that Bernard, Walcott and Bolasie don't have good enough end product but I saw nothing from Lookman in a blue shirt that convinced me he was any better, nevermind to the level which you want to rate him at better than those others.

If he was better than them and wanted to stay here then he'd be starting matches. He wasn't and he didn't and now he's looking for a 3rd club in 3 years and that's solely down to him.
 
Efcjake said:
Getting in the positions and not finishing it off with a goal or an assist is worthless as far as putting points on the board goes.


You ain't winning matches because your players get into good positions but do nothing with it.

His stats would be dire if not for his purple patch during the RB loan. I'm not even bothered about judging his time in Germany because it's a completely different league and he never did anything worthwhile for us in the Prem.


I'm fine with saying that Bernard, Walcott and Bolasie don't have good enough end product but I saw nothing from Lookman in a blue shirt that convinced me he was any better, nevermind to the level which you want to rate him at better than those others.

If he was better than them and wanted to stay here then he'd be starting matches. He wasn't and he didn't and now he's looking for a 3rd club in 3 years and that's solely down to him.
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Again the scarcity of goals in this sport means to me that if all you focus on is that you'll miss things. It is how we ended up with Sandro for example. But that's a philosophical thing so I'm not going to spend time convincing you to change your mind.
 
TheBigIguana said:
Again the scarcity of goals in this sport means to me that if all you focus on is that you'll miss things. It is how we ended up with Sandro for example. But that's a philosophical thing so I'm not going to spend time convincing you to change your mind.
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And yet you don't rate Bernard for this very reason right?
 

Efcjake said:
And yet you don't rate Bernard for this very reason right?
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I don't rate Bernard because he is an attacker who doesn't shoot and who plays a lot of passes from more dangerous areas to less dangerous areas. I also think the build up stuff that people praise him for a lot is overblown, he is fine at it, but not good enough to make up for what he doesn't do in the attacking third.

I also will freely admit that him playing 2000 minutes last year while Lookman played 500 pissed me off and if he starts every game on the left down the stretch here instead of letting Iwobi and/or Gordon try to develop it'll piss me off again.
 
He has the composure of a 3 year old. His moment of the season for Leipzig is giving away a horrendous penalty and throwing away 2 points.

www.goal.com

Lookman concedes penalty as 10-man RB Leipzig hold Hertha | Goal.com

Ademola Lookman was in action as RB Leipzig played out a 2-2 draw with Hertha in Wednesday’s Bundesliga game.
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At this point he can only dream of having the career of Yannick Bolasie. His current career path is to bounce between the Championship and L1 and fizzle away.
 
Another one of those players which i wasn't happy for us to let go of because he had bags of talent, but another who's just not consistent enough to play for us, so another good bit of business there.

We do seem to have a problem with getting talented youngsters to live up to their potential though which is very worrying.
 
Lookman is an outstanding talent. It's just a shame all of his professional coaches so far haven't been able to see it when they see him train and play every day. More fool them for focusing on things like "looking" or "watching" a player and judging him on what he "does" with a "football".

I mean, not to talk down to some of you, but the subtleties of the game seem a little beyond your scope. I could explain to you all about Lookman's x-Internalised_Ideas, his Intentions He Changed His Mind About per minute, or his Dream Last Night of a Backheel, but it feels like I'd be talking to a load of neanderthals, imho.
 

I liked the lad,seemed or seems to have a lot of technical ability,but application seems to be a problem,can see him turning out for the likes of Newcastle,West Ham,having the odd game were he looks class then a run of 5/6 looking lost
 

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