2020/21 Alex Iwobi

[TheBigIguana]

He's a RWB @TheBigIguana

He needs to be as far away from the right touchline as possible

 

[TheBigIguana]

We need goals across the team which he doesnt offer. He hasn't offered many assists either. He's a talented player but isn't effective.

Not every player scores and assists. We've never tried to use what he can do.

 

[billyblue80]

The biggest problem is the fit. Playing wide at Arsenal and playing wide here are very different and one suits him way more. It's why I think he might be decent centrally for us, because weirdly it better compares to what playing wide for them was while he was there. But even then it isn't a perfect fit. We have to improve on this with future signings.

Playing centrally is different for Arsenal too. I looked at videos from his Arsenal time and he looked different physically less bulky and more dynamic. Lad looks like he doesn't care tbh. He has potential but is not fulfilling it. Also he thinks he's better than he is. Agree he was the wrong type he was a panic buy when we couldn't get Zaha and that's mad because they are very different players, the fee we paid was obscene too. We need hungry players who are ambitious not someone who made it at a top club and is now on the step down.

 

[kenada_blue]

It is waffle mate. Those with eyes in their head over a statistician.
Scary if brands based the signing on that.

Like I said, I'm not defending the player as I'm not a fan. But I see the sense in buying him as, rightly or wrongly, these stats matter when clubs recruit.

IF it panned out, no one would be having this conversation. It's a bad buy but wasn't without merit or potential to warrant the punt based on the price tag and availability. Its the same with Vlasic, Lookman, Kean...all were punts and all didn't pan out for us.

We spent £30mill on Walcott and Tosun which is arguably a worst as they're senior pros that should've worked.

 

[kenada_blue]

That just reads as a puff piece put out by his agent - have you read the bit on pressing and recoveries - did he magically lose those abilities when he joined us?

Fair play for digging that information out but as has been said before sometimes you have to use your own eyes rather than being blinded by stats.

Of course. I've stayed many times how the lad can't control a ball, can't pass, score, shoot or cross. But there was a basis to buy him and see if it worked.

Another big thing was that arsenal kept the ball and had better finishers than we did, so that pumped up more of these stats.

 

[kenada_blue]

He didn't score goals at Arsenal though and thats the main reason it was a bizarre piece of recruitment. When we spend 30m on an attacker we need goals. 2 league goals in almost 2 seasons is so poor.

We needed/need both. Past 2 seasons none of our midfielders registered more than 3 assists apart from Siggy for one season. Main creativity came from Richy and Digne.

Goals, I agree with. But I'm sure Iwobi was looked at from a creative POV.

Again, clearly he's not what we thought we bought. But the evidence to take a chance was.

 

[maccavennie]

Balloons one over from 12 yards and you see that clueless look on his face similar to when Lee Westwood misses a 5 ft putt.

We've got so many players that simply aren't good enough and I genuinely don't think we'll be able to shift them unless it was a loan.

Iwobi
Delph
Gomes
Gylfi
Tosun

We'd be hard pressed to collect any kind of worthwhile fee for any of the above.

 

[hallamblue]

Pound shop Zaha panic buy. When you sign players because you couldn't get the player you wanted it rarely works. If we can get £10 million for him I'd take it.

 

[sageyefc]

Thankfully think he’s burnt his bridges with Carlo after his ‘correct position’ comments and we’ll see him booted in the summer. Another one to add to the long list of horrendous signings

 

[Lanolin]

Like I said, I'm not defending the player as I'm not a fan. But I see the sense in buying him as, rightly or wrongly, these stats matter when clubs recruit.

IF it panned out, no one would be having this conversation. It's a bad buy but wasn't without merit or potential to warrant the punt based on the price tag and availability. Its the same with Vlasic, Lookman, Kean...all were punts and all didn't pan out for us.

We spent £30mill on Walcott and Tosun which is arguably a worst as they're senior pros that should've worked.

But you could say that about quite literally any signing? In fact, about anything. The whole point is surely that people didn't think it would pan out because they'd seen him play before, and so it not panning out has just cemented what they already thought. Of course he could have improved a lot and so turned out to be a good signing, but then so could I if they'd picked me up on a free.

 

[kenada_blue]

But you could say that about quite literally any signing? In fact, about anything. The whole point is surely that people didn't think it would pan out because they'd seen him play before, and so it not panning out has just cemented what they already thought. Of course he could have improved a lot and so turned out to be a good signing, but then so could I if they'd picked me up on a free.

It's potential. Clubs generally buy younger players based on how good they can get. I don't see how Iwobi breaks into the arsenal side under Wenger, makes an impression, is inconsistent but bags more assists and goals than most of our midfielders at 22, is premiership ready, and it NOT be calculated punt.

People are suggesting he was awful for Arsenal and it's no surprise he's awful for us and wonder why we bought him. I'm making a point that there was a basis to buy him.

So you need a base. Which means getting you for a free must mean you had something about you in the first place to even be considered.

 

[catcherintherye]

But you could say that about quite literally any signing? In fact, about anything. The whole point is surely that people didn't think it would pan out because they'd seen him play before, and so it not panning out has just cemented what they already thought. Of course he could have improved a lot and so turned out to be a good signing, but then so could I if they'd picked me up on a free.

And the key point is a central area of value for a DOF is to turn those theoreticals into actuals. Just as a manager is judged not on what a substitution might do, but what they actually do, the same is the case for a DOF.

He just doesn't put any consistency together Iwobi. I know people want to slaughter Sigurdsson, but when you actually look at Sigurdssons numbers it's chalk and cheese to this guy. He has the occasional great game, then is awful.

 

[DrEFC]

Like I said, I'm not defending the player as I'm not a fan. But I see the sense in buying him as, rightly or wrongly, these stats matter when clubs recruit.

IF it panned out, no one would be having this conversation. It's a bad buy but wasn't without merit or potential to warrant the punt based on the price tag and availability. Its the same with Vlasic, Lookman, Kean...all were punts and all didn't pan out for us.

We spent £30mill on Walcott and Tosun which is arguably a worst as they're senior pros that should've worked.

Walcott would of been of use this season.

 

[JMT]

I think he's a good player but he needs to move to a team like Palace or Brighton or someone and play every week.
It clearly won't work out here and we've massively overpaid for him, o well.

 

[kenada_blue]

Walcott would of been of use this season.

I'd of used him over Iwobi, definitely.

But I think that was more of a case of a way to release wages for James. £100k a week squad player in the last year of his contract, Saints were interested, so we let him go.