Alisher Usmanov

[brieverton]

There's every reason for him to join, as I said will try do a piece in more detail over the next day or so when not typing off my phone whilst watching pepper bloody pig!

Would like to read that mate, particularly your take on a timeframe for which it would be feasible for this to happen.

I know nothing of the likelihood or otherwise of this happening. Obviously it would take us into another orbit if it did come to pass. We wouldn't be failing to convince Axel Witsel et al of the merits of joining us, that's for sure.

 

[bluestevon]

I can see this happening, especially when Moshiri bought the club and it was reported as Usmanov. I've always viewed Moshiri as the man to lay the foundations, scout ahead so Usmanov knows the score.

The only thing I can think of that stops this is who does Usmanov sell to? Obviously Kroenke is there but is he really that arsed when he's aiming to make tonnes more of money from fair weather L.A. fans of the Rams in the NFL?



Arsenal fans are very welcome to comment here pal, yous will know a lot more than us.

Chinese bought a 13% stake in City for near 300m mate with no hope of control or a say, a similar deal with a Chinese consortium in regards to Usmanovs shares are easily plausible, especially given he has a lot of contacts through other interests which are turning east since the Ukraine mess got Russia looking that way rather than towards Europe.

 

[Deleted member 24970]

ARSENAL FAN TV HERE, WE'VE JUST LOT 3-1 TO WEST BROM, DT HOW DO YOU FEEL.

Well y'know we need assen venga to spend spend spend millyons of dollars !
We av tree injured playas out for tree days, der iz only five weekz of de window left. Sign dat teeago silva, kally koulibaly and rigoberrr song for £80 millyon and we will be fine.

(Nigerian accent I heard after the LFC game, man was singing too - cringy or brilliant ? you decide)

 

[Deleted member 24970]

If Esk says it isn't happening then I'm very hopeful.

Happy days.

 

[ggooggooggoo]

He's been on this site for over two years mate, and never had a problem, always been open about not being a blue as well, strange eh! Some others should give that a gogogogogo

not sure what your saying here mate

 

[Rudolf Hucker]

Anyone else hear the rumour that Usmanov's obsession with the Liverpool Waterfront dates back to the 1980s when he saw Letter to Brezhnev?

 

[Ashtonian]

If Esk says it isn't happening then I'm very hopeful.

Happy days.

as this summer has proven, this is bizarro land and everything esk says, the opposite happens.

 

[Baines' left foot]

The Peoples Club no more

Not the same club any more mate! Not like it used to be when Bill would text me good luck before a game and giving me a Freddo if I lasted the full 90 minutes. It's just a money making machine now! Everyone looking out for themselves!

Regards

Tony

 

[bluestevon]

Even if he came in,he wouldn't be able to splurge wily nily like Abramovich did from 2004-2012 and City from 2008-2012

FFP stopped that happening,those splurges can only happen if you have big enough turnovers and fit the criteria for spending a percentage of your turnover,wasn't long ago when PSG and City were fined heavily and threatened with expulsion from the CL for spending way beyond they could on fees and wages within the confines of FFP to their turnovers.With a turnover of 120 odd million in the last books it would be impossible to spend 100 million plus under ffp with such a mediocre turnover in one summer.

If he came in he would have have to rush a stadium through to increase matchday revenues,and use his own companies to sponsor the club commercially the same way Mansour has done with City and get the turnover in the £300-£400 million bracket,It should be noted City have spent £157 million this summer and haven't sold anyone yet,they have gotten away with that because their turnover is around £350 million,If Usmanov came in he has to increase turnover by another £230 million to be spending that sort of money in one transfer window.

Also some guy on a blog wrote this article and the online editions of the papers have just copied and pasted it word for word.

In reality the amount of spending could approach that level, it just requires a plan of how to do so without falling foul of the ffp rules and usmanov has the means approaching cities owners mate, he's a league above Roman.

 

[Connor]

Chinese bought a 13% stake in City for near 300m mate with no hope of control or a say, a similar deal with a Chinese consortium in regards to Usmanovs shares are easily plausible, especially given he has a lot of contacts through other interests which are turning east since the Ukraine mess got Russia looking that way rather than towards Europe.

I get the City example but part of me assumes that is because City are expanding to Asia (Launched a new kit there, playing friendlies plus the fact the Chinese want in on the footy because of the President/Prime Minister.)

The one I can see is Kroenke maybe getting Americans on board that he trusts which he may not have a problem with. Him moving his NFL team to LA brings in more money for the rest of the league from TV deals and Ad revenue so he could get a few of them.

I'm not good at all when it comes to business so I just leave to people who know a lot more. Just making what I am assume as common sense links.

Well y'know we need assen venga to spend spend spend millyons of dollars !
We av tree injured playas out for tree days, der iz only five weekz of de window left. Sign dat teeago silva, kally koulibaly and rigoberrr song for £80 millyon and we will be fine.

(Nigerian accent I heard after the LFC game, man was singing too - cringy or brilliant ? you decide)

Had to turn that one off haha.

 

[Deleted member 24970]

as this summer has proven, this is bizarro land and everything esk says, the opposite happens.

Soooo your telling me that @bizzaro is actually @The Esk alternative account ?

 

[rochdaleblue]

The most interesting aspect of moshiris tenure here is recruiting koeman as manager. Don't know how much influence he and usmanov had at arsenal, but it was widely reported that koeman was going to be the arsenal manager after wenger. Strange that moshiri identified koeman as the man to lead us. I bet usmanov would have fully backed this appointment for arsenal, now he's at Everton.

 

[RaleighBlue]

Just a slight view on Kroenke from the American side.

He really doesn't care about winning anything. That article is dead right about that. He only cares about maximizing his profit and control. I could absolutely see him buying out Usmanov if he thinks it will make him a tiny bit richer down the road, regardless of whether it adds a 'competitor' on the pitch.

The only sticking point would be Usmanov may cut off the CL money from him...but maybe he doesn't care that much? Or maybe there is something else afoot to offset it, like the television money being enough and the general feeling that eventually Arsenal are going to end up falling back a bit anyway (with City/Utd/Chelsea wrapping up 3 spots with extreme investment and Spurs/WHam/Us/Liverpool/etc. trying to push Arsenal out).

Kroenke is just about the worst owner you could hope for. Ask St. Louis. I feel bad for @49ers

 

[RFUS]

Esk is sound as but I think the line between fact and opinion can get blurred sometimes.

I don't think blues who think this could happen are mental, but also I can see how it's hardly a done deal.

If he comes, that's utterly brilliant news for the club. If he doesn't, we have Farhad who is already proving to be a top man and a great person to steer the club to where we want it to be.

 

[bluestevon]

I get the City example but part of me assumes that is because City are expanding to Asia (Launched a new kit there, playing friendlies plus the fact the Chinese want in on the footy because of the President/Prime Minister.)

The one I can see is Kroenke maybe getting Americans on board that he trusts which he may not have a problem with. Him moving his NFL team to LA brings in more money for the rest of the league from TV deals and Ad revenue so he could get a few of them.

I'm not good at all when it comes to business so I just leave to people who know a lot more. Just making what I am assume as common sense links.



Had to turn that one off haha.

Any owner who moves a NFL team to LA should instantly fail the fit and proper persons test, there's a good reason all LA teams end up moving back away, its just not a football town, just done for the tv market there.

Think Arsenals profile in Asia would make them attractive for similar mate, failing that there's a lot of rich Russians who doing a favour for usmanov wouldn't be the worst move either, especially one with no real financial risk involved, and is effectively a safe investment.