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2022/23 Amadou Onana

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Hilarious how we signed a load of players and couldn’t get rid of them. Chelsea signed loads of players, how now got rid of them all go Saudi and got big fee’s for all of them. And they will avoid any ffp issues because all the new players they signed are all on longer contracts. It’s almost like it’s meant to be for these top 6 clubs. Everything goes right for them.
 
Bez2k2k said:
Hilarious how we signed a load of players and couldn’t get rid of them. Chelsea signed loads of players, how now got rid of them all go Saudi and got big fee’s for all of them. And they will avoid any ffp issues because all the new players they signed are all on longer contracts. It’s almost like it’s meant to be for these top 6 clubs. Everything goes right for them.
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Or if you sign good players people will buy them off you.
 

Paul Rideout said:
What do we think his absolute ceiling (fully developed to his fullest potential) is? £90m??

Someone offers us north of £65m we should bite their hands off and invest in 2 or 3 players with the same potential as Onana’s was at Lille. Then you mitigate for things like injuries etc by spreading your outlay.
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He is supposed to be a holding midfielder (as confirmed by our resident expert @Zatara ).
The best holding midfielder by a mile is Rhodri. City paid £62 million for him.
Do you honestly think AO has the potential to be better than him ?
I don't
A fee of anything over £50 million would be fantastic.
 
jazzy said:
He is supposed to be a holding midfielder (as confirmed by our resident expert @Zatara ).
The best holding midfielder by a mile is Rhodri. City paid £62 million for him.
Do you honestly think AO has the potential to be better than him ?
I don't
A fee of anything over £50 million would be fantastic.
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Look at it another way - Declan Rice will go for £100m. Fulham will be looking for well over £50m for Joao Paulinha if he moves this summer.

The Rodri fee was a few years ago and now looks like a bargain.

The comparison seems out-of-date now.

I don't know exactly what sort of figure I'd be putting on Onana because you're paying for potential, but he does look like he has an awful lot going for him if he can harness it all. If we paid £26m and owe 20% of the profit to Lille, a fee of £50m gives you a profit of just over £19m. All depends what sort of premium you'd be happy with after only having him 12 months. Personally if we could double our money on him (which would mean selling him for about £60m after allowing for the 20% sell on clause), I think that's in the region of what I'd want based on him having 4 years left on his deal, his age, the obvious potential there and the Declan Rice valuation.
 
jazzy said:
He is supposed to be a holding midfielder (as confirmed by our resident expert @Zatara ).
The best holding midfielder by a mile is Rhodri. City paid £62 million for him.
Do you honestly think AO has the potential to be better than him ?
I don't
A fee of anything over £50 million would be fantastic.
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That is his position for the national team and tbh he does look better there but then he is playing with much better players around him.
 
st.domingo said:
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Ahh, I've missed the days of Belgian internationals moaning about being at Everton, the second they're away from the club. Then ramping up the fans when back at Goodison.

It makes me feel all warm and tingly.
 

Paul Rideout said:
What do we think his absolute ceiling (fully developed to his fullest potential) is? £90m??

Someone offers us north of £65m we should bite their hands off and invest in 2 or 3 players with the same potential as Onana’s was at Lille. Then you mitigate for things like injuries etc by spreading your outlay.
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I've repeated it 100x over the years on here. But I really do wish we'd "moneyball" our strategy.

1. Buy in a player, explain we're a stepping stone to a European club. (dont cry over this, they don't have a love for the club). He'll get the move, if he gives 100% every game and helps the team.

2. Sell the player for an inflated fee, he's performed well and top clubs want him. They have the money, we have a young talent.

3. Buy in 2 or 3 new players, showing them our strategy. Players become eager to move to us to help them grow and get the move they want.

4. Sell the 2 or 3 players over time and repeat.

There's so many reasons why this could and should work.

1, We firstly fall in line with FFP and report healthy finances.
2, We gain a reputation (like Brighton) for producing players and it's expected that teams will pay big money for our talent.
3, We develop relationships with the top clubs. Allowing us to pick their best of the rest.
4, Players actually want to join our club. Right now, why would you? If the club moved to this strategy, you'd have players desperate to join, all seeing how other talents got their move.
5, Each season we improve slightly. This isn't a quick win. But over time, we move into the top half, then begin to knock on the door of Europe. At this point, our talent goes for far bigger fees and we attract a higher quality of player. Eventually, players will no longer see us as a stepping stone, but a club to move to for Europe etc.

There's so much more to it and I've waffled on previously. But god I wish we could look at it and work on it. I feel it's the only viable strategy to us ever becoming a force again. Spending big didn't work. Fans wanting players to stay forever doesn't work. Old cast off's doesn't work. The academy doesn't work. This strategy is screaming to be implemented.
 
cjuk87 said:
I've repeated it 100x over the years on here. But I really do wish we'd "moneyball" our strategy.

1. Buy in a player, explain we're a stepping stone to a European club. (dont cry over this, they don't have a love for the club). He'll get the move, if he gives 100% every game and helps the team.

2. Sell the player for an inflated fee, he's performed well and top clubs want him. They have the money, we have a young talent.

3. Buy in 2 or 3 new players, showing them our strategy. Players become eager to move to us to help them grow and get the move they want.

4. Sell the 2 or 3 players over time and repeat.

There's so many reasons why this could and should work.

1, We firstly fall in line with FFP and report healthy finances.
2, We gain a reputation (like Brighton) for producing players and it's expected that teams will pay big money for our talent.
3, We develop relationships with the top clubs. Allowing us to pick their best of the rest.
4, Players actually want to join our club. Right now, why would you? If the club moved to this strategy, you'd have players desperate to join, all seeing how other talents got their move.
5, Each season we improve slightly. This isn't a quick win. But over time, we move into the top half, then begin to knock on the door of Europe. At this point, our talent goes for far bigger fees and we attract a higher quality of player. Eventually, players will no longer see us as a stepping stone, but a club to move to for Europe etc.

There's so much more to it and I've waffled on previously. But god I wish we could look at it and work on it. I feel it's the only viable strategy to us ever becoming a force again. Spending big didn't work. Fans wanting players to stay forever doesn't work. Old cast off's doesn't work. The academy doesn't work. This strategy is screaming to be implemented.
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Should get you in mate. Seem to know what you’re on about.
 
cjuk87 said:
I've repeated it 100x over the years on here. But I really do wish we'd "moneyball" our strategy.

1. Buy in a player, explain we're a stepping stone to a European club. (dont cry over this, they don't have a love for the club). He'll get the move, if he gives 100% every game and helps the team.

2. Sell the player for an inflated fee, he's performed well and top clubs want him. They have the money, we have a young talent.

3. Buy in 2 or 3 new players, showing them our strategy. Players become eager to move to us to help them grow and get the move they want.

4. Sell the 2 or 3 players over time and repeat.

There's so many reasons why this could and should work.

1, We firstly fall in line with FFP and report healthy finances.
2, We gain a reputation (like Brighton) for producing players and it's expected that teams will pay big money for our talent.
3, We develop relationships with the top clubs. Allowing us to pick their best of the rest.
4, Players actually want to join our club. Right now, why would you? If the club moved to this strategy, you'd have players desperate to join, all seeing how other talents got their move.
5, Each season we improve slightly. This isn't a quick win. But over time, we move into the top half, then begin to knock on the door of Europe. At this point, our talent goes for far bigger fees and we attract a higher quality of player. Eventually, players will no longer see us as a stepping stone, but a club to move to for Europe etc.

There's so much more to it and I've waffled on previously. But god I wish we could look at it and work on it. I feel it's the only viable strategy to us ever becoming a force again. Spending big didn't work. Fans wanting players to stay forever doesn't work. Old cast off's doesn't work. The academy doesn't work. This strategy is screaming to be implemented.
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It doesn't work when you have a kopite signing players from Leeds.
 

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