And Yet... Perspective

[Cork Evertonian]

All our remaining games are winnable and 90% of you wouldn’t know a good manager if you saw them so stop your whining you prepubescents.

I think the problem is that we have kept dropping points, in these so called winnable games. Of course the Don Carlo needs time and all, but considering the dropped points against the teams we should be beating, and Arsenal Spurs and the rs out of sorts. This season has been a massive missed opportunity, to finish in the top four.

 

[John from Bootle]

They have Lingard leading their line, who was literally a joke sometime ago.

Which only serves to highlight how clueless most people actually are.

It's often people who have not achieved much academically who believe they have some 'football intelligence.'

Meet them all the time. They earn 8 quid an hour in Tesco but are absolute experts in football. They convince themselves that there's some deep critical and scientific element of football that they see and think they're highly intelligent.

Nope. Football is quite a simple game. Good PLAYers will PLAY good most of the time. See how that works? It's hardly rocket surgery (sic) is it?

Stop trying to convince yourself (not you) that it makes you intelligent and concentrate on supporting the team and getting the out of date bread into the bargain bin.

 

[Terrarian]

Which only serves to highlight how clueless most people actually are.

It's often people who have not achieved much academically who believe they have some 'football intelligence.'

Meet them all the time. They earn 8 quid an hour in Tesco but are absolute experts in football. They convince themselves that there's some deep critical and scientific element of football that they see and think they're highly intelligent.

Nope. Football is quite a simple game. Good PLAYers will PLAY good most of the time. See how that works? It's hardly rocket surgery (sic) is it?

Stop trying to convince yourself (not you) that it makes you intelligent and concentrate on supporting the team and getting the out of date bread into the bargain bin.

Bit of a nob comment that isn't it, do you think working in tesco automatically makes you dumb about anything never mind a sport which has f all to do with retail.

 

[John from Bootle]

Bit of a nob comment that isn't it, do you think working in tesco automatically makes you dumb about anything never mind a sport which has f all to do with retail.

Nope it doesn't automatically make you dumb. It does mean you're definitely not that well rounded intelligence wise though, if you're over the age of 25 or not a student.

 

[Terrarian]

Nope it doesn't automatically make you dumb. It does mean you're definitely not that well rounded intelligence wise though, if you're over the age of 25 or not a student.

Absolute bollocks and very disappointed in that attitude. I work in retail and I have a lot of sports qualifications also. I got stuck in retail because I made management, as I got older it got harder and harder to career change, I now can only work part time for health reasons. I usually enjoy your posts but think you are being very arrogant here.

 

[John from Bootle]

Absolute bollocks and very disappointed in that attitude. I work in retail and I have a lot of sports qualifications also. I got stuck in retail because I made management, as I got older it got harder and harder to career change, I now can only work part time for health reasons. I usually enjoy your posts but think you are being very arrogant here.

Think you're missing the £8 an hour point mate.

I'm not being arrogant mate. I could have picked many jobs to use as an example.

In my experience, it's quite often low achievers who spend their time trying to convince people of their vast football knowledge.

A bit like the typical cabbie.

I'm not calling these people dumb, it's just that they attach a level of intelligence to football understanding, that isn't really needed, because it's not a game that involves a huge amount of intelligence. I'm not saying they're not intelligent enough to speak about it. As I said, 'it's not rocket surgery'

Oh and I'm purposefully trying to be a knob. Don't care. Not trying to offend anybody.

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

Bit of a nob comment that isn't it, do you think working in tesco automatically makes you dumb about anything never mind a sport which has f all to do with retail.

For what it's worth, I used to be a customer vehicle recovery operative (trolley pusher to the uninitiated) in sainsbury many years ago. I now have 4 degrees related to astro physics and was part of the team who launched the Mars probe in 2007.
I have 4 patents pending on an idea to grow orchards from nothing more than the pips found in discarded apple cores, potentially solving a lot of world hunger problems in one fell swoop.
And I still can't fathom a reason to pollute goodisons hallowed turf with fabian wrong sox.

 

[malfosse]

The word I would use to sum up this season is, disappointing.
The potential is there, beating the rs, Arsenal, Spurs etc then going on to lose against, well you all know who they are.
This season is just a stepping stone on the journey to our inevitable greatness.
Let's finish the season the way we know they can.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Nope it doesn't automatically make you dumb. It does mean you're definitely not that well rounded intelligence wise though, if you're over the age of 25 or not a student.

Pathetic comment that reeks of misplaced intellectual arrogance.

 

[Glasshalffull]

Which only serves to highlight how clueless most people actually are.

It's often people who have not achieved much academically who believe they have some 'football intelligence.'

Meet them all the time. They earn 8 quid an hour in Tesco but are absolute experts in football. They convince themselves that there's some deep critical and scientific element of football that they see and think they're highly intelligent.

Nope. Football is quite a simple game. Good PLAYers will PLAY good most of the time. See how that works? It's hardly rocket surgery (sic) is it?

Stop trying to convince yourself (not you) that it makes you intelligent and concentrate on supporting the team and getting the out of date bread into the bargain bin.

I think the thrust of your argument is valid, mate, in that people you wouldn't trust to tie their shoe laces sometimes seek validity and status by their 'knowledge' that the moon landings never took place, Bill Gates is trying to track your whereabouts via chips in vaccines, and they know football better than anyone else, whether rocket scientist, or successful coach. On the other hand, the way you couched your argument could be very hurtful to lots of good people, and that hurt could have been avoided by making your point differently.

Having agreed with you, I have to point out that I believe I have a lot more going on between my ears than many a player, coach, and manager, and yet they're infinitely more able to make good football decisions than am I. Similarly, when I was a kid, I was pretty bright, and had a mate with less brains than a block of wood, yet he would always, always, beat me at chess, so there's probably such a thing as niche intelligence, not reflected in general academic ability.

Hope I've said all that without causing any offence, other than perhaps extreme boredom. Sorry for wittering on.

 

[John from Bootle]

Pathetic comment that reeks of misplaced intellectual arrogance.

But I'm not claiming to be an intellectual. I'm not. I managed to elevate myself above minimum wage earning by the time I was 25 though.

You're right though, I was perhaps a bit arrogant to stereotype. Some people have hard lives, I appreciate that. I was just trying to rile any minimum wage earning armchair managers.

I do maintain though, that in my experience, a lot of unskilled people will bore you rigid imparting their vast football knowledge upon you.

Having read what @Glasshalffull said, I feel he's right. Apologies to anybody who took offence.

 

[ClausThomsen]

Which only serves to highlight how clueless most people actually are.

It's often people who have not achieved much academically who believe they have some 'football intelligence.'

Meet them all the time. They earn 8 quid an hour in Tesco but are absolute experts in football. They convince themselves that there's some deep critical and scientific element of football that they see and think they're highly intelligent.

Nope. Football is quite a simple game. Good PLAYers will PLAY good most of the time. See how that works? It's hardly rocket surgery (sic) is it?

Stop trying to convince yourself (not you) that it makes you intelligent and concentrate on supporting the team and getting the out of date bread into the bargain bin.

There are plenty of successful teams who have changed manager and then become average sides - Moyes taking over Ferguson's title winning side for example.

And also why some excellent managers lose their way and stop winning stuff despite having the same players available.

I'd strongly argue that there is more to it than having the best players. Lot's of teams overachieve with players who aren't the best and lots of teams underachieve with better players.

A lot of very successful managers would probably say that there is more to it than such a simplistic approach. It is a tactical game and preparation is also vital when it comes to top/elite level competition.

 

[ArtetaMoney]

Which only serves to highlight how clueless most people actually are.

It's often people who have not achieved much academically who believe they have some 'football intelligence.'

Meet them all the time. They earn 8 quid an hour in Tesco but are absolute experts in football. They convince themselves that there's some deep critical and scientific element of football that they see and think they're highly intelligent.

Nope. Football is quite a simple game. Good PLAYers will PLAY good most of the time. See how that works? It's hardly rocket surgery (sic) is it?

Stop trying to convince yourself (not you) that it makes you intelligent and concentrate on supporting the team and getting the out of date bread into the bargain bin.

Spoken like a true academic.

 

[Crestfallen]

Which only serves to highlight how clueless most people actually are.

It's often people who have not achieved much academically who believe they have some 'football intelligence.'

Meet them all the time. They earn 8 quid an hour in Tesco but are absolute experts in football. They convince themselves that there's some deep critical and scientific element of football that they see and think they're highly intelligent.

Nope. Football is quite a simple game. Good PLAYers will PLAY good most of the time. See how that works? It's hardly rocket surgery (sic) is it?

Stop trying to convince yourself (not you) that it makes you intelligent and concentrate on supporting the team and getting the out of date bread into the bargain bin.

My mate is an Astro physicist and he also doesn’t rate Jesse Lingard!

 

[msb]

I earn considerably more than minimum wage, however I can prove I know chuff all about football.

I have supported Everton for nigh on 63 years, evidence enough.