2019/20 Andre Gomes

[maccavennie]

There seems to be this idea that you shouldn't take into account how bad someone got injured in deciding between yellow and red and I honestly don't understand that. It feels obvious to me that causing a bad injury could be a sign that the tackle was more dangerous.

Taking away my blue tinted glasses mate, I go back to basics

He was given a red for serious foul play as he endangered the safety of an opposing player.

That's the rule.

Came from behind at speed and endangered the safety of an opposing player

Breaking his ankle in the process

That's not me making the rules up is it mate. The definition of the rules is that it was a red. The fact he broke his ankle just makes it 1000 times worse

The appeal makes it 10,000 worse

Everton saying nothing makes it 100,000 times worse

imo

 

[TheBigIguana]

Taking away my blue tinted glasses mate, I go back to basics

He was given a red for serious foul play as he endangered the safety of an opposing player.

That's the rule.

Came from behind at speed and endangered the safety of an opposing player

Breaking his ankle in the process

That's not me making the rules up is it mate. The definition of the rules is that it was a red. The fact he broke his ankle just makes it 1000 times worse

The appeal makes it 10,000 worse

Everton saying nothing makes it 100,000 times worse

imo

Agree all the way. No real argument to say Gomes safety wasn't endangered since his ankle is broken. Saying normally that tackle doesn't do that is pointless as we aren't talking about every incident just this one.

 

[Deleted member 38674]

You don't get to intentionally foul someone and claim it is an accident when they get injured even if it is much more of a sever injury than you ever imagined you could cause.

There’s no way of knowing if it was intentional or not. At best it was clumsy, at worst it was a cynical foul designed to halt an attack, the kind you see almost every game in the middle of the park.

I don’t believe that Son went out to intentionally hurt Gomes, if you do that’s fine. I just don’t think that’s what happened.

 

[Goat]

Honestly starting to think that the people who think it was a red card have only seen that picture of Son looking angry and assumed he attempted to murder Gomes.

I weep for people who still think it was a red card, I honestly do.

 

[blulouie]

Taking away my blue tinted glasses mate, I go back to basics

He was given a red for serious foul play as he endangered the safety of an opposing player.

That's the rule.

Came from behind at speed and endangered the safety of an opposing player

Breaking his ankle in the process

That's not me making the rules up is it mate. The definition of the rules is that it was a red. The fact he broke his ankle just makes it 1000 times worse

The appeal makes it 10,000 worse

Everton saying nothing makes it 100,000 times worse

imo

All of this

 

[Deleted member 38674]

Why do you constantly do this ?

It cant be any clearer , its an admission of guilt whichever way you wanna dress it up.

But carry on fella , you're making me look good.

Plenty of people apologise without admitting guilt. You can be sorry that something occurred without acknowledging full responsibility for it.

Plenty think Aurier should have been punished. Plenty believe it was a freak accident and nobody was to blame. Game of opinions, isn’t it.

 

[maccavennie]

Agree all the way. No real argument to say Gomes safety wasn't endangered since his ankle is broken. Saying normally that tackle doesn't do that is pointless as we aren't talking about every incident just this one.

I honestly feel like everyone is just watching slow motion replays from every angle to justify why it wasn't a proper full on arlarse tackle.

Watch it in full speed, the tackle is 3 yards away from ever getting the ball, he's a sly little petulant tit for doing it and should be called out for being a sly petulant little tit for doing it.

No conspiracy, not seeing things that aren't there, not asking for him to get his leg broken next game, just stating an absolute fact that it was a sly arse tackle from behind that he was out of control of and has ended up with a horrific injury for one of our players.

Red card
All day
Every day
Broken ankle or not the rules state this

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Honestly starting to think that the people who think it was a red card have only seen that picture of Son looking angry and assumed he attempted to murder Gomes.

I weep for people who still think it was a red card, I honestly do.

Don’t cry for them mate, they’re already dead

 

[Goat]

Don’t cry for them mate, they’re already dead

Everybody getting all worked out saying we are a soft touch.

I love the fact that we have a little class and dignity at this club.

 

[Tipp blue]

There’s no way of knowing if it was intentional or not. At best it was clumsy, at worst it was a cynical foul designed to halt an attack, the kind you see almost every game in the middle of the park.

I don’t believe that Son went out to intentionally hurt Gomes, if you do that’s fine. I just don’t think that’s what happened.

Well if that's the case when does a ref give a red card for any tackle? There's never any way of knowing the intent of a player, you don't believe that son went out to intentionally hurt Gomes, so is that you saying that a red should only be given if it's the refs belief that there was intent to hurt. I'm genuinely struggling to see your argument.

 

[Tipp blue]

Honestly starting to think that the people who think it was a red card have only seen that picture of Son looking angry and assumed he attempted to murder Gomes.

I weep for people who still think it was a red card, I honestly do.

So there's a picture of son looking angry and 30 seconds later the guy who made him angry is on the ground with his foot 90 degrees from where it should be after being tackled by a guy who was sent off earlier in the season for a reaction to someone else who made him angry ... we'll that's it I'm convinced open top bus parade for Son for being such a nice bloke.

 

[Deleted member 38674]

Not what I asked you, I requested you come to me with a sensible argument referring to the rules of the game as to why Son should not have been sent off.

Because an impartial panel of independent regulatory officials who are trained in the rules of the game deemed after reviewing multiple angles of footage, the same footage that we have seen, that Son did not endanger the safety of Gomes with that tackle.

This overruled the earlier decision by Matchday official, Martin Atkinson, to award a red card to Son on the basis of endangering the safety of Gomes.

Former ref, Dermot Gallagher stated that any other official, having seen the injury, would have responded in the same way as Atkinson in giving the red card.

However, in the cold light of day, once the emotion and tempers of the game had died down, most fans recognised that the tackle wasn’t actually a “career ender” or a “leg-breaker”. It wasn’t dangerous in and of itself.

It was a fairly common, innocuous challenge that resulted in horrendous and unfortunate consequences for Gomes.

You disagree with that and that’s fine.

 

[SantaClausisanEvertonian]

I genuinely cannot see why so many Blues are seeking to excuse this as an 'accident' or 'one of those things' or 'happens every game'.
Gomes is out for months because of a petulant and premeditated foul, committed with the sole intent of stopping him in his tracks. In that respect, it was job done for Son and he should be getting no support, no sympathy and no respect for behaving like a terrified cryarse afterwards.
Looking at tonight's result, he seems to have got over his devastation pretty quickly.

 

[Blues Harp]

Even if it merited just a yellow, the gobshite should have been off for a second card, the first being for blatantly diving in the first half.....that's what annoys me, along with being denied 2 penalties, and the farce that is var. No one from the club has even said anything about this and all we got was a post match garbled interview with Silva. We are known as a soft touch club....don't worry it's only Everton, they will accept any decision made by the FA without complaint. Imagine if it had been an rs player on the receiving end......would they have just say there and said nothing? Or Man U in Ferguson's tenure? Think we know the answer to that one don't we?

 

[blulouie]

Honestly starting to think that the people who think it was a red card have only seen that picture of Son looking angry and assumed he attempted to murder Gomes.

I weep for people who still think it was a red card, I honestly do.

Seen every angle many many times , what it doesnt take into account is Son ran 30 yards tried a nibble at Iwobi then as the opportunity arose for a flailing Gomes arm 2 mins earlier presented itself , Son with studs up tackled from behind ( outlawed years ago) was seeking retribution.
He didnt snap Gomes' ankle but he definately caused it.
If you disagree thats your opinion , FA/ Prem rules state opposite to your opinion.

Ps very very similar tackle by Xhaka was appealed and not rescinded.Red card.

But then again they aint Everton.