2022/23 Anthony Gordon

[chicoazul]

Could be both, he hit very bad form which is normal for young players, then during the run of poor form he hears the stick from fans and decides I can’t be arsed with this anymore

The problem in general is fans deciding that whatever negative narrative they’ve assumed is correct for young/new players justifies the utter lack of patience with them.

I don’t think it’s just an Everton problem, I would say majority of footy fans act like this

Can we pretend it’s an Evertonian problem just for the discourse in this thread please mate?

 

[Drico]

So Newcastle will let him be "trapped at Everton", will they?

Could be worse, Anthony. Have you seen the Saudi jails?

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

We can’t seriously be asking for £60m. He’s not even worth £50m, but they’ve apparently offered that. Would be absolutely mental to turn £50m down even if some of it is add ons.

We’ll ruin this potential life saving cash cow won’t we, and bench him the rest of the season.

 

[dublinbluenose]

Move or no move, missing training twice in two days is fairly unprofessional.

 

[Lobster Johnson]

Move or no move, missing training twice in two days is fairly unprofessional.

Trying to move himself into full "wantaway" territory

 

[EFC_FRANCIS]

It may well be the case mate, but it's hard to argue he isnt a good judge of talent when you look at his record at Brighton and England.

What?

 

[bicycleheader]

Can we pretend it’s an Evertonian problem just for the discourse in this thread please mate?

Yes. I was incorrect to say it’s a general footy fan problem. Very disingenuous of me.

The truth is all other clubs fans set up support groups for all the young lads and new signings and commit to cheering them on for two seasons minimum regardless of form. We alone are so bad we follow our scouts around, ask them who they are scouting and then once the target is identified shout Yer Ma at them throughout the game and on into their Everton career until they go out on loan or are sold.

It is a sad state of affairs and can only be resolved in these next 100 pages with intermittent posts from your good self. They will see the light

 

[dublinbluenose]

It may well be the case mate, but it's hard to argue he isnt a good judge of talent when you look at his record at Brighton and England.

Tony Bloom's stats guys deserve a fair chuck.of the credit for Brighton. Be interesting to see where both Brighton and Newcastle are in 18 months time to judge whether Ashcroft still deserves the credit or whether Brighton are still finding gems.

Edit: Ashworth

 

[catcherintherye]

What?

I think Ashworth was highly regarded for his work with England youth teams mate.

 

[toffeeblue9]

Move or no move, missing training twice in two days is fairly unprofessional.

Yesterday was supposedly a "planned" absence. No idea re today

 

[trueblue84]

Can we pretend it’s an Evertonian problem just for the discourse in this thread please mate?

I blame the fans. Should've battered the little ginger rodent after the Southampton game. He would then know what it means to be an evertonian and would be better for the experience.

 

[GoldenToffee]

So Newcastle will let him be "trapped at Everton", will they?

Could be worse, Anthony. Have you seen the Saudi jails?

The Saudis certainly wouldn't tolerate that barnet he's got on him. Fully expect a short back and sides upon completion of the deal, and the highlights removed as soon as possible.

 

[DanB90]

He was about 18

20.
He struggled for game time at Preston (or whichever club he ended up at) iirc

 

[kenada_blue]

Record time from an academy prodigy to rat me thinks

 

[EFC_FRANCIS]

I think Ashworth was highly regarded for his work with England youth teams mate.

He was but it's not like he was responsible for identifying talent. Under his tenure the left back issues also crept in.

For the record I don't think his talent ID is actually a bit over rated. Brighton already identified and signed Mac Allister and Bissouma prior to him joining so they were clearly already doing well with their scouts. He improved with the volume and patience of kids brought through but that was already Brightons M.O which was already in place and Weir has continued.

His development and patience with talent is his best attribute buy again could be more a result of Brighton being a very tight ship than him specifically