Ashley Williams

[BlueToff]

For sure, prices at the moment are nuts, and I'm almost sure that players from Portugal and Wales that no one would look at twice before the tournament are being touted around after it. Williams is perhaps one of the better ones in that regard in that he's always been a solid and unspectacular player. £10m is sure a lot of money for that kind of player, but if we're honest I'm sure we'd admit that £50m for Stones is equally insane.

Spot on Bruce.

Stones is worth £50m in the current climate because a) we don't need to sell, b) he's one of the best youngsters around and c) the fees this summer are mental.

But, by that logic an experienced PL player who is a very solid defender and a real leader, in his prime as a defender, is worth £10mil.

I'm think this would be very much a 'Distin-type' signing. We signed Sylvain in 2009 for £5mil, when he was 31.

Seven years later, a player with the equivalent experience and talent and at the same age is worth double. That's down to inflation and it is what it is. It's all relative, just how 5 years ago £30mil would get you David Silva, but now doesn't get you Troy frigging Deeney.

 

[jh18]

Does he improve the first 11 and squad. Yes.
Is he a leader and commanding? Yes.
Good in the air? Yes.

All the things were missing from all 3 of our Center halves. Get him in.

 

[Jags..class]

Would be surprised that Williams will leave swansea at this age, he loved living ins swansea and been there for years, would he uproot his family for two years. I'm not convinced Williams will be coming to us

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Spot on Bruce.

Stones is worth £50m in the current climate because a) we don't need to sell, b) he's one of the best youngsters around and c) the fees this summer are mental.

But, by that logic an experienced PL player who is a very solid defender and a real leader, in his prime as a defender, is worth £10mil.

I'm think this would be very much a 'Distin-type' signing. We signed Sylvain in 2009 for £5mil, when he was 31.

Seven years later, a player with the equivalent experience and talent and at the same age is worth double. That's down to inflation and it is what it is. It's all relative, just how 5 years ago £30mil would get you David Silva, but now doesn't get you Troy frigging Deeney.

I do wonder where he'll fit though really, as we have Jags and Mori, who you'd think are first choice, and then a host of talented young centre backs that should be pushing for action this year in Galloway, Holgate, Pennington and Browning. How many centre backs do we really need?

 

[BlueToff]

Would be surprised that Williams will leave swansea at this age, he loved living ins swansea and been there for years, would he uproot his family for two years. I'm not convinced Williams will be coming to us

we'll see lad. was surprised myself when I saw the headlines last night, but apparently word on a few of the Swansea forums has been that he's said he'd like to be given the opportunity to leave if a good offer comes in.

Then again it may all be down to his agent wanting a better deal. Time will tell.

 

[bizzaro]

I do wonder where he'll fit though really, as we have Jags and Mori, who you'd think are first choice, and then a host of talented young centre backs that should be pushing for action this year in Galloway, Holgate, Pennington and Browning. How many centre backs do we really need?

Precisely.

 

[BlueToff]

I do wonder where he'll fit though really, as we have Jags and Mori, who you'd think are first choice, and then a host of talented young centre backs that should be pushing for action this year in Galloway, Holgate, Pennington and Browning. How many centre backs do we really need?

I think Koeman is looking for a commanding centre half mate and none of the players we have now (including Jags) are that.

There were rumours he was looking at Fonte from Saints, and Williams fits the same bill IMO.

Ideally I'd like the kids to be fourth choice, but at the same time we are crying out for a leader at the back and when Jags is injured (he hasn't even had a pre-season yet) we lack that sorely.

Stones, Jags, Williams and Mori would be a solid defensive unit, and complemented by the kids (some of who I'd imagine would go out on loan) would work well.

Equally so, if Stones is sold, we will then go and get a replacement.

 

[TheFinnFan]

Actually this smells...he's signing new contract soon. Same thing than with Arnautovic.

 

[BlueToff]

Precisely.

IMO, Holgate looks the only one ready to make the step up to playing CB in the league as fourth choice. Galloway has done well, but I think will be used primarily as the left-back back up - think Oviedo may be on his way should an offer come in.

We haven't got a commanding cb and we are in desperate need of one. Williams fits the bill.

 

[Connor]

Actually this smells...he's signing new contract soon. Same thing than with Arnautovic.

Wednesday at the latest.

 

[bizzaro]

IMO, Holgate looks the only one ready to make the step up to playing CB in the league as fourth choice. Galloway has done well, but I think will be used primarily as the left-back back up - think Oviedo may be on his way should an offer come in.

We haven't got a commanding cb and we are in desperate need of one. Williams fits the bill.

No.

Its a desperate signing advocated from panicking posters at an excessively high price.

I won't change my mind on this point.

 

[BlueToff]

No.

Its a desperate signing advocated from panicking posters at an excessively high price.

I won't change my mind on this point.

were you saying the same about Distin in 2009?

I'm not convinced this signing will happen either, btw, but he's a good player and I'd be happy if he came here.

 

[BlueLlama]

Who amusingly was signed by Martinez when he was at Swansea

he has been rebuilt Stevo so pipe down

 

[bizzaro]

were you saying the same about Distin in 2009?

I'm not convinced this signing will happen either, btw, but he's a good player and I'd be happy if he came here.

I was very disappointed with Distin and I was one of his most vocal critics on this forum.

 

[BlueLlama]

No.

Its a desperate signing advocated from panicking posters at an excessively high price.

I won't change my mind on this point.

Tell us the bit about Negredo being equal to Aguero again Damo