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Ashley Williams

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Him or Jags alongside a top class defender who's more mobile like Koulibaly or VVD would be fine for next season.

The issue that him and Jags together doesn't seem to work that well.
 
Deco said:
Him or Jags alongside a top class defender who's more mobile like Koulibaly or VVD would be fine for next season.

The issue that him and Jags together doesn't seem to work that well.
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Jags is finished as a top center back an too mistake prone. If jags is the level of player and leader we have in our starting 11 we do not finish higher than 7th. I would have him on bench for cover.
 
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Seems to have come in and become everyone's best mate. This lot are too busy being chums to win anything. Thought a corner was being turned when he called Lukaku out but know they're all back to smiling and laughing after yet another defeat.

If he doesn't bring any leadership then he's an average prem centre back. We need better. He's at the peak of his career and he's on the same level as Jagielka who was at the necessary level 10 years ago pre cruciate injury. That shows you how far Williams Jags is behind Lescott Jags of 07/08.
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I've been thinking this for a while, we need to get rid of this old boys club. I remember an article written by Carrager about how all the Everton players were trying to be all pally and chat to him in the tunnel before a derby and he was stood there wanting to go out and hurt us.

Friendly players are good but we need leaders, particularly when the whistle goes.
 

diggerdestroyer said:
Jags is finished as a top center back an too mistake prone. If jags is the level of player and leader we have in our starting 11 we do not finish higher than 7th. I would have him on bench for cover.
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In fairness to Jags he's played very well since being back in the fold, but for next season it's more likely to be Williams starting over him, yeah.

Neither are ideally what we want starting at the back though.
 
Not been as good as I'd have hoped, as really liked him at Swansea, but it hasn't helped not having a good centre half alongside him all year. That said, I think he's improved the defence in general.

If we brought in a quality CB next to him who can defend but is good on the ball, I think we would see a better player in Williams.

I've generally been a fan of having one footballing CB and one clogger - he's definitely the latter.
 
Deco said:
In fairness to Jags he's played very well since being back in the fold, but for next season it's more likely to be Williams starting over him, yeah.

Neither are ideally what we want starting at the back though.
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Ya i agree to the point he had 2/3 very good matches in fairness. But poor in others. It has been his story for last 3/4 years.will not been the captain or leader or player we need to progress and as long as players of his caliber start we are a 7th or lower placed team.
 

I think we have just had the last good/average season from him.
Yet he was still better than what we had. Best defender early season.
Squad player next season. We need new players at the back.
 
Deco said:
Him or Jags alongside a top class defender who's more mobile like Koulibaly or VVD would be fine for next season.

The issue that him and Jags together doesn't seem to work that well.
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I do not like 2 short CB (6 ft) playing together (have no choice at the moment I won't play Pennington). Yesterday goal from Swansea demonstrated that the weakness of such issue.
 

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