Transfer Rumour Axel Witsel

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That shows we do need him. Barry is old now, McCarthy has be rubbish the past 2 seasons, Davies is good, but young, and Besic is average (tho i do love him).

Basic hasn't really had a run out due to injuries. I'd judge when he plays 10+ games on the bounce.

McCarthy has been okay IMO. Fitness being the difference has for those 2 seasons for everyone it took a nose dive.

Then you've got Gueye apparently.

To me, Witsels not worth all this.
 

It's all down to Zenith really we need them to stand their ground when it comes to Juve

He has already told zenith thay he wants to go and the manager has said he was reluctant to play him in the last game. The danger is he plays up until they drop the price as he could be adement he wont sign for us.
 
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Basic hasn't really had a run out due to injuries. I'd judge when he plays 10+ games on the bounce.

McCarthy has been okay IMO. Fitness being the difference has for those 2 seasons for everyone it took a nose dive.

Then you've got Gueye apparently.

To me, Witsels not worth all this.

McCarthy has not been okay, he has been complete rubbish for 2 seasons.
 
Basic hasn't really had a run out due to injuries. I'd judge when he plays 10+ games on the bounce.

McCarthy has been okay IMO. Fitness being the difference has for those 2 seasons for everyone it took a nose dive.

Then you've got Gueye apparently.

To me, Witsels not worth all this.
Why? He's different to all of those and none of them, bar Besic maybe to an extent, don't do anything that Koeman wants or fits his style of play. If Koeman and Walsh like him and think he fits the mould around Gueye and Ross, for £25m, solid buy.
 
I'd probably take him, but his wages are a major put off. I fear that Everton's new rich owner will leave in the future and put us in a major bad spot in terms of finances.

I don't mind him spending cash, but try and keep the wages affordable incase something bad happens.
 

Maybe it is then. However speaking objectively I don't think there is much, at this time, to say that any of those ITK's are any more accurate than FourFourTwo. Just a case of wait and see for me.

Agree he would improve our squad, just not sure if that would be to a level reflected in the price. Add in his seeming inability to make up his mind and that why I'm a bit indifferent now. Obviously if he ends up here I'll support him 100%.

Think with the price thing mate we just have to accept that in the current market we as a side that has finished 11th in the richest league in Europe for two years in a row are probably going to have to overpay to get quality players in that will improve our current starting XI.
 
To add to that is the relationship between Dyukov (Zenit President) and Moshiri, plus the bad blood that exists between Zenit and Italian clubs generally.

To illustrate it mate this is from summer 2015

Zenit Saint Petersburg general director Maxim Mitrofanov has hit out at AC Milan andJuventus over their approach for midfielder Axel Witsel.

The Rossoneri were keen to land the Belgian international at the end of the transfer window,with vice-president Adriano Galliani admitting a deal was possible.

Juve were also linked with a move, landing Hernanes instead, and the Russian director has accused both clubs of trying to land Witsel without Zenit’s consent.



“We did not receive concrete offers from any Serie A club,” he told Championat.com.

“When the window was about to close, Milan asked us about the player but without a real offer.

“Over the final two days they engaged in talks with the player, but we kindly reminded them what day it was on the calendar.

“They were certain they had a yes from the player’s agent.

“I don’t know if Juventus, Milan or some other clubs should be banned for a couple of seasons.

“We have facts and we could send them to UEFA, stating that a player under contract with us engaged in talks without our consent.

“Everyone must be in agreement, clubs included. That is how transfers work.

“Otherwise clubs can pay the buy-out clause without having to contact us.”



The Belgian remains with Zenit for the new season, but Mitrofanov revealed that Witsel is more than happy to continue his stay in Russia.

“I spoke with him on the final day of the window and we agreed that there were two possibilities,” he added.

“We could either extend his contract or sell him if he insisted he wanted to leave.

“He still has two years on his contract with us and he has guaranteed me that he will work hard as long as he wears this shirt
 
McCarthy has not been okay, he has been complete rubbish for 2 seasons.

He was ace for the first bit of 14/15 and after a slow start very good up until that injury vs Bournemouth last season.

Do think he will be moved on though if we get a decent offer. We'll see.
 
So has Stones but we're looking at £50mill for him

Stones has been rubbish fro two seasons???? :D

Is that why he was the subject of four bids from the then champions last summer?

I've heard it all now. He had a poor spell after Christmas, picked up an injury and came back in March to a side that was deflated and had lost faith in the manager.

He had a shocker in the derby and made a few errors last season, but was ace in the first half of the campaign and put in a world class display at Wembley in the semi final.

Give your head a wobble, please
 

I'd probably take him, but his wages are a major put off. I fear that Everton's new rich owner will leave in the future and put us in a major bad spot in terms of finances.

I don't mind him spending cash, but try and keep the wages affordable incase something bad happens.

It won't tho, if and its a big IF Moshiri leaves say within 5-10 years, then Everton will be great financialy. The new stadium could change that alone. Plus TV deals, and any other income. The PL is the richest league in the world.
 
I'd probably take him, but his wages are a major put off. I fear that Everton's new rich owner will leave in the future and put us in a major bad spot in terms of finances.

I don't mind him spending cash, but try and keep the wages affordable incase something bad happens.

Our wage bill is fine pal, don't worry about it.

£100k a week is mental, yes, but is the going rate if you want good players.
 
In fairness mate if he were just a money chaser wouldn't he have already accepted our huge offer? Just playing Devil's advocate there.

Also, he's better than what we currently have mate, honestly. I won't be devastated if he doesn't sign but would be very pleased if he did - as he'd fill a void in that midfield that desperately needs plugging, imo.

Fair do's - I hope if we do sign him then you're right. Agree we defininitely need improving in that area
 
Is he? Not from what I've seen.

Talking a minor improvement going forward from midfield, especially if we've signed Gueye too but thats it. Nothing major.

£30mill for a feller who's not too bothered about moving here, who's not really gonna make a huge difference IMO.

Bin him. Look for a playmaker.

Well all of the players we have are defensive mids mate. There's only Barkley who can really have an effect going forward, followed by Cleverley.

Witsel can do both and by the looks of it Koeman's system needs a player who can drive forward from deep but also offer protection as well.

Witsel fits that mould.
 

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