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Birmingham 2-2 Everton

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Fans have and deserve to air their opinions on the team they love. They see them week in wekk out etc. Clubs should listen to them.

But, no fan will ever gain the expierience necessary of what it takes to play and manage at the level these people have. Its why I hate the questions on Moyes when ever he makes a selection! He knows the team better than me and see's them every day, I dont. I just see them once a week and if they have a bad game is it a fair reflection on the guy? I think not.
 
gkpaul said:
Fans have and deserve to air their opinions on the team they love. They see them week in wekk out etc. Clubs should listen to them.

But, no fan will ever gain the expierience necessary of what it takes to play and manage at the level these people have. Its why I hate the questions on Moyes when ever he makes a selection! He knows the team better than me and see's them every day, I dont. I just see them once a week and if they have a bad game is it a fair reflection on the guy? I think not.
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True, but then he's dropped a bollock letting Vaughan go hasn't he?
 
BlackToffee said:
Calling Ghost a "no mark" really isn't on. He has a view, I disagree with it. I saw the feed, so really don't need an expert to tell me what I saw. You heard a comment and haven't seen the match.

When you see the match, I'd prefer that you make your judgement from that informed viewpoint than simply listening to a player because he's a legend.
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Just to explain I called Ghost a no-mark, in reference to his earlier post calling everyone on here a bunch of no marks.

It was to highlight the idiocy of going on a football forum to exchange views and opinions with the attitude of thinking that everyone you encounter is a no mark.

Jesus, now I sound like a no mark
 
bluebastardo said:
Now your being silly Ghost.
What does a stream have to do with anything? Are you saying that the Sky pundits with Jeff on a Saturday afternoon are talking crap because they are watching the game on their monitors?

If you don't rate Anichebe, that's cool. That's your opinion as a fan. We won't tell you Moyes knows better, so your opinion is wrong, just as you might be better not mentioning the same with Sharpy.
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Also Sharpy moans at EVERYONE. He said Fellaini was [Poor language removed], berates Pienaar frequently, and doesnt like Yak or Vic because he thinks they're "lazy".

A large chunk of our good play came from the right, more so than on the left with Pienaar and Baines today. He did well and scored a good goal did Vic but was injured by the end of the 1st half and should'nt have played in the 2nd half.

And there was nothing wrong with Yak's game. He was litterally a LOAN striker with no back up from Cahill who disappeared when the whistle went.

Did Sharpy have a go at Cahill at all?
 

leonbil said:
Just to explain I called Ghost a no-mark, in reference to his earlier post calling everyone on here a bunch of no marks.

It was to highlight the idiocy of going on a football forum to exchange views and opinions with the attitude of thinking that everyone you encounter is a no mark.

Jesus, now I sound like a no mark
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I know it wasn't in reference to me. I just wanted us to not get into personal insults. I disagree with Ghost, but as a fan. I think that an opinion needs to be based on facts or else we'll all start thinking that the earth is still flat despte the evidence to the contrary.

Sharpy called it wrong, Ghost callled it wrong, but I don't wann get personal about it.
 
BlackToffee said:
I know it wasn't in reference to me. I just wanted us to not get into personal insults. I disagree with Ghost, but as a fan. I think that an opinion needs to be based on facts or else we'll all start thinking that the earth is still flat despte the evidence to the contrary.

Sharpy called it wrong, Ghost callled it wrong, but I don't wann get personal about it.
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I'm not having that. The earth isn't round.
 
kenada_blue said:
Why? Cos he runs about? WOW great thing for a striker to run about....and not score.
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Well from what I have seen of him this season, which is very little, he's done well. A damn sight more effective than Yak.

But what happened today? We had a striker on the wing, and then we had that winger up front, and then a player who has played for us mainly on the wing asked to play up front.

Vaughan would have happily come on and done a job, and not swaggered like he's won the Golden Boot.
 

GhostOfDixie said:
Right. Ok. But my stance remains the same. If Sharpy who watched the game live, was there, breathing the same air as everyone else and not watching the game on some illegal stream, and he says that Anichebe was lazy then, and didn't move that ball then, then I like others are going to take his word for it, not a couple of no-marks on a forum are going to change that opinion for me.

Maybe I want to hear what Sharpy said? or maybe it's because I know that Anichebe is gash and the odd goal isn't going to change my mind.

Unless its about something else?
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BlackToffee said:
Calling Ghost a "no mark" really isn't on. He has a view, I disagree with it. I saw the feed, so really don't need an expert to tell me what I saw. You heard a comment and haven't seen the match.

When you see the match, I'd prefer that you make your judgement from that informed viewpoint than simply listening to a player because he's a legend.
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Tell that to ghost. (y)
 
BlackToffee said:
I know it wasn't in reference to me. I just wanted us to not get into personal insults. I disagree with Ghost, but as a fan. I think that an opinion needs to be based on facts or else we'll all start thinking that the earth is still flat despte the evidence to the contrary.

Sharpy called it wrong, Ghost callled it wrong, but I don't wann get personal about it.
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Did you call it right then? Or is that your opinion?

Opinions are variable, they are just that. Nobody's opinion is wrong unless it's saying something is clearly way off.

I never called anything wrong, I formed my opinion based on what I know, and what an expert has said. It's also why experts are brought into a court of law and not some Joe Bloggs from down the road.
 
this is turning into playground gear.

so about Howard then,

should've saved the first deffo and could've done better with the second.
 

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