blue union meeting.

[Charlie Sweet]

Hilton is used because there's no space at Goodison. Corporate hospitality sold out for every game at Goodison last season and there's now a waiting list to join. The demand is there. You say it's a non-starter... Times are changing with the regenerated Anfield. A club with vision would take advantage of things and push forwards.

And there's no room for the marquee because the very successful (and heavily filled & busy) Fan Zone is there now.

A regenerated Anfield might just end up creating a district of the city with half decent social housing, a nice bit of public open space, a new school and various drop-in centres. That's it.

We need a sugar daddy. You can't polish a turd and L4 isn't all of a sudden going to become Notting Hill.

 

[Firhillfill]

Hilton is used because there's no space at Goodison. Corporate hospitality sold out for every game at Goodison last season and there's now a waiting list to join. The demand is there. You say it's a non-starter... Times are changing with the regenerated Anfield. A club with vision would take advantage of things and push forwards.

The demand may well be there on an everton match day. But that the only time it's there. That's 19 - 25ish days a year.

It's all very well comparing it to London but the two really aren't comparable. I've never found staying in Liverpool City centre particularly expensive so what other than attachment to the club would attract me to stay at goodison hotel?

 

[BoysInBlue]

The demand may well be there on an everton match day. But that the only time it's there. That's 19 - 25ish days a year.

It's all very well comparing it to London but the two really aren't comparable. I've never found staying in Liverpool City centre particularly expensive so what other than attachment to the club would attract me to stay at goodison hotel?

Good marketing?

 

[tommye]

Mate, it's a non starter.

C&E. The room is there - of course it is, massive venue. Delegates won't use it because it's not central.

Hospitality. Hilton isn't used because there's no space. If that was true, bring back the tent the club removed to make space for the annexe...

this thread has become an annexe of the board thread

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

Hotel would be a white elephant.

Maybe a blue elephant.

But it would take 1,000,000 years to pay for itself.

Nice idea but I'd leave it on the drawing board.

 

[USABlue]

How long would it take for her to do 250 million tramps?

Probably shouldn't post this but to relevant. Will delete upon request haha

 

[BoysInBlue]

A regenerated Anfield might just end up creating a district of the city with half decent social housing, a nice bit of public open space, a new school and various drop-in centres. That's it.

We need a sugar daddy. You can't polish a turd and L4 isn't all of a sudden going to become Notting Hill.

No, we need the club to be run properly and not be risk-adversive. We need ambitious, visionary people running the club, willing to take calculated risk based on their professional know-how, as opposed to taking no risks at all. We need to bring commercial operations in house, and invest money in quality qualified commercial experts to exploit and grow our brand. We should not limit our world to 2 shops in the city & a website. We need to overtake Stoke (!) in terms of commercial performance. We need to be aggressive in media relations and challenge bad/poor national media coverage. If the club is run properly, with a 1, 2, 5 and 10 year plan to increase revenues and develop growth, there is no need for a 'sugar daddy'.

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

I will judge the board and the BU on what they accomplish.

So they're both on a level pegging with close to 0 achieved.

 

[BoysInBlue]

Hotel would be a white elephant.

Maybe a blue elephant.

But it would take 1,000,000 years to pay for itself.

Nice idea but I'd leave it on the drawing board.

You do realise a hotel as part of a redeveloped stadium is only going to cost a fraction of what a brand new stadium by itself would cost?

A hotel wouldn't be the main revenue driver behind a rebuilt Goodison. It would just be one aspect. Norwich didn't exactly go bust having a Holiday Inn as part of their Jarrold Stand. It wouldn't need to 'pay itself off', it would likely be in partnership with a hotel chain.

 

[BoysInBlue]

I will judge the board and the BU on what they accomplish.

So they're both on a level pegging with close to 0 achieved.

Why should the BU accomplish anything? They don't run the club. Their objectives are to raise awareness and make suggestions, both of which they're doing.

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

You do realise a hotel as part of a redeveloped stadium is only going to cost a fraction of what a brand new stadium by itself would cost?

A hotel wouldn't be the main revenue driver behind a rebuilt Goodison. It would just be one aspect. Norwich didn't exactly go bust having a Holiday Inn as part of their Jarrold Stand. It wouldn't need to 'pay itself off', it would likely be in partnership with a hotel chain.

Even with a partner though, nobody will stay in it 340 days per year. If some Kopites do then that's 310 days per year.

Why would any hotel business get involved in that?

 

[BoysInBlue]

Even with a partner though, nobody will stay in it 340 days per year. If some Kopites do then that's 310 days per year.

Why would any hotel business get involved in that?

They do at other much smaller clubs. This is all done elsewhere and in 'worse areas' too.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

You do realise a hotel as part of a redeveloped stadium is only going to cost a fraction of what a brand new stadium by itself would cost?

A hotel wouldn't be the main revenue driver behind a rebuilt Goodison. It would just be one aspect. Norwich didn't exactly go bust having a Holiday Inn as part of their Jarrold Stand. It wouldn't need to 'pay itself off', it would likely be in partnership with a hotel chain.

Thing is, a hotel wants occupancy rates.

That occupancy rate needs to exist more than 19-25 days a year.

That's the reason there isn't a Premier Inn/ Holiday Inn/Travelodge in Walton.

A Holiday Inn would exist on the site of Norwich City with or without the football club - because it's central;

http://www.deliascanarycatering.com/meetings-and-conferencing
Norwich City Football Club's conferencing venue is situated in the heart of Norfolk, with easy road and rail links from London, Ipswich and Cambridge.

^ There's a Premier Inn around the corner too, and several others. The demand is there because of the location, not the football club.

 

[chicoazul]

Thing is, a hotel wants occupancy rates.

That occupancy rate needs to exist more than 19-25 days a year.

That's the reason there isn't a Premier Inn/ Holiday Inn/Travelodge in Walton.

A Holiday Inn would exist on the site of Norwich City with or without the football club - because it's central;

http://www.deliascanarycatering.com/meetings-and-conferencing
Norwich City Football Club's conferencing venue is situated in the heart of Norfolk, with easy road and rail links from London, Ipswich and Cambridge.

^ There's a Premier Inn around the corner too, and several others. The demand is there because of the location, not the football club.

Beat me to it. Hotel wants a minimum occupancy for each month. Never mind the seasonality of football and the fact the prime attraction is one a fortnight you'd be lucky to hit an average of 900 room nights for the month. So the hotel would have to be small and niche, and certainly not on the scale of the one produced unless a lot of that space was used for pre and post match hospitality.

 

[Pat's Van]

seems to be quite a lot of questions being asked of whether or not a hotel in L4 is a viable option (I think not, for what it's worth) but it should be taken into account the overall picture of what's being mooted here is a redevelopment of goodison, isn't that what we need to discuss ?