Match Thread Burnley v Everton, Saturday 3rd March 2018

[Berenger]

A large proportion of the problem is clearly down to the manager. But Allardyce leaving will not 'make it stop'. These players have shown under three very different managers that they are badly lacking in leadership, courage and desire. Not to mention the squad is overweight in some positions and really weak in others.

Nothing will fix that properly, just paper over it. So the only reason to change manager is if you expect another honeymoon period.

 

[chrissyjack]

No Williams , eh ? BFS will put Schneiderlin there, next week, just to give him a game , and troll us all

 

[ADT]

"The position we're in is very good at the moment"

 

[Sarnia Kevin]

eldorado was real I remember it on BBC.

It was garbage though wasn't it? Got pulled in double quick time.

 

[banno]

I am hoping we beat Brighton and play well. Strange that isn't it? If you don't agree, then which other games do you want us to win to avoid relegation?

Shut up you plonker. Master at twisting things you think.

 

[daza_1973]

It was garbage though wasn't it? Got pulled in double quick time.

The Everton 2017/18 of soaps

 

[Stutheblue]

Bottom half of the table at the moment... The day just gets better. Thanks Sam.

Was always going to happen at some point. We've somehow managed to stay in the top half despite being dross. Looking over our shoulders biggo now.

 

[davek]

Koeman and Robertos fault that as we was bad away from home before Allardyce arrived so nothing can be done

Last few seasons of data on away form underlines that it was only under Martinez we went for it and picked up away wins.

Away wins per season:

Koeman/Allardyce (thus far) 4/1

Martinez 8/5/5

Moyes 4/5/4/5

 

[Stutheblue]

A large proportion of the problem is clearly down to the manager. But Allardyce leaving will not 'make it stop'. These players have shown under three very different managers that they are badly lacking in leadership, courage and desire. Not to mention the squad is overweight in some positions and really weak in others.

Nothing will fix that properly, just paper over it. So the only reason to change manager is if you expect another honeymoon period.

I sort of agree mate. But this Allardyce is grim. I normally like to give the manager time (at least a season or two). But his departure can't come quick enough.
The players? Shocking. Overhaul needed. Ageing defenders out first.

 

[Dunc's elbow]

Will take 2 seasons.

So sit tight

At least, 3-5 years I think. BFS to “save” us from relegation and be matched out of the club to a media fanfare in the summer (I hope).

 

[kenada_blue]

At least, 3-5 years I think. BFS to “save” us from relegation and be matched out of the club to a media fanfare in the summer (I hope).

Hopefully less that that.

But clearly, just even now, next season finishing between 7th and 10th will be the aim if we're doing things the right way.

 

[windymiller]

Just got back from the match, went about as well as I expected. Don't know why I bother any more.

 

[Latchford Lark]

Had to listen to the match on the radio. Heard most of the first half - we scored, we were playing great football, we were keeping possession of the ball - even Ronnie Goodlass said how well we were doing! Had to go out after 40 mins. Got home and rushed to see result - can't believe it. What happened?

 

[billybeeru]

A large proportion of the problem is clearly down to the manager. But Allardyce leaving will not 'make it stop'. These players have shown under three very different managers that they are badly lacking in leadership, courage and desire. Not to mention the squad is overweight in some positions and really weak in others.

Nothing will fix that properly, just paper over it. So the only reason to change manager is if you expect another honeymoon period.

Exactly right on the first point. Ultimately it’s the players that are failing over and over and I think sometimes as fans we find it easiest to point blame at the manager and let the players off the hook.

But I’m still good with Allardyce going now. What would be wrong with a temporary honeymoon period with someone else? At least then we’d get to witness another win or two before this miserable season ends. It’s hard to imagine anyone else would be worse.

 

[catcherintherye]

"The position we're in is very good at the moment"

Has he said that mate?