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2019/20 Carlo Ancelotti

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BlueToff said:
But he had the opportunity to change things and didn't.

I think it's fair to criticise him for that.

I'll reiterate - proper chuffed we've got him, he's world class. Our squad is garbage. Brands is on his last chance because tbh if not for Ancelotti we'd have no chance of attracting the level of player needed to improve us.

We've got to bin off half of the squad in the next two windows. It's a crapshow, I know.

But that isn't an excuse for not turfing Sidibe (who bloody hell, despite Toffee TV's love-in with him because he can cross, is utterly garbage in games like this) off at half-time and getting a player on capable of running with the ball.
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Well said, Toff.
 

everton1953 said:
Already the knives are out for Carlo by a few. It beggars belief.
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Ancelotti has half a season and the summer to sort this mess, he must have been promised pot loads of cash for signings or I don’t think he would have come. Usually jan transfer window isn’t ideal for buying, but he must get some in, it’s like a bonus window for him, he can get a few in settled before the summer clear out and new players. If the board are up for it which I believe they are, there’s no reason this mess can’t be sorted in 7/8 months.
 
davek said:
From FourFourTwo:

Everton's pitiful display in the Merseyside derby shows the scale of the challenge for Carlo Ancelotti

That’s a very harsh term, but it’s not an unfair one. Particularly because the longer the game remained scoreless, the more obvious it became that Everton would find a way to lose. It was telling, also, that Ancelotti’s veteran players were among the worst on the pitch and appeared to wilt the quickest. Gylfi Sigurdsson, Lucas Digne and Morgan Schneiderlin were all dismal, Theo Walcott was especially awful.

Instead of giving Everton their critical edge, those players – among others – appeared consumed by what a loss to this Liverpool would mean. Given the same opportunity in the same situation, tougher players of their standing would have relished the opportunity to slap that Liverpool team around. Really good footballers – the ones who have all the technical and emotional attributes – have that habit of giving lessons to young pretenders. They enjoy putting coming generations back in their place. They resent their achingly fashionable haircuts and colourful boots and take great pleasure in dosing out the humility.

But these Everton players don’t share that kind of personality. They’re victims. Losers. After Curtis Jones had scored the game’s only goal, there was no determination to respond, just petulance – from Fabian Delph and Yerry Mina – and self-pity. There wasn’t even the hint of an equaliser, let alone any sense that anybody's pride was being affronted. Instead, they stood back and let Liverpool pass the ball, allowing them a victory lap before full-time. It was unforgivable.



Who knows what Ancelotti made of it. Everton’s new manager is a serial winner, a three-time conqueror of the Champions League alone, and yet here he was, associating with players who cower just at the sight of the wrong-coloured shirt.

If there is any encouragement to draw, though, it’s in how unlikely he is to tolerate this situation. This, ultimately, was not just elimination from the FA Cup, but also a loss which came with subliminal messages. It defeated, for instance, any pretensions Everton may have of rescuing value from their recent recruiting cycles. It also asked questions of the depth of the club’s scouting and the attention which has been paid to personality and the kind of hidden attributes which win football matches when it absolutely matters.

Its greatest value, though, was in laying bare the squad’s deficiencies and showing – conclusively – that Ancelotti can’t be expected to win with this set of players.

The most efficient move at this point, then, must be to recognise that disconnect. Everton must understand that every turn they've taken over the last three years has been in error and that, as a result, they are now absolutely nowhere. They're not a couple of players away or in need of strengthening in just a few positions, but actually at zero - a point of total inferiority in relation to everything they measure themselves against.

They must start again, this time with some substance to their thinking.
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Spot on the money. It has taken a while and a lot of money thrown around, but at least we now have a proper football brains in the club with Ancelotti.
 
davek said:
From FourFourTwo:

Everton's pitiful display in the Merseyside derby shows the scale of the challenge for Carlo Ancelotti

That’s a very harsh term, but it’s not an unfair one. Particularly because the longer the game remained scoreless, the more obvious it became that Everton would find a way to lose. It was telling, also, that Ancelotti’s veteran players were among the worst on the pitch and appeared to wilt the quickest. Gylfi Sigurdsson, Lucas Digne and Morgan Schneiderlin were all dismal, Theo Walcott was especially awful.

Instead of giving Everton their critical edge, those players – among others – appeared consumed by what a loss to this Liverpool would mean. Given the same opportunity in the same situation, tougher players of their standing would have relished the opportunity to slap that Liverpool team around. Really good footballers – the ones who have all the technical and emotional attributes – have that habit of giving lessons to young pretenders. They enjoy putting coming generations back in their place. They resent their achingly fashionable haircuts and colourful boots and take great pleasure in dosing out the humility.

But these Everton players don’t share that kind of personality. They’re victims. Losers. After Curtis Jones had scored the game’s only goal, there was no determination to respond, just petulance – from Fabian Delph and Yerry Mina – and self-pity. There wasn’t even the hint of an equaliser, let alone any sense that anybody's pride was being affronted. Instead, they stood back and let Liverpool pass the ball, allowing them a victory lap before full-time. It was unforgivable.



Who knows what Ancelotti made of it. Everton’s new manager is a serial winner, a three-time conqueror of the Champions League alone, and yet here he was, associating with players who cower just at the sight of the wrong-coloured shirt.

If there is any encouragement to draw, though, it’s in how unlikely he is to tolerate this situation. This, ultimately, was not just elimination from the FA Cup, but also a loss which came with subliminal messages. It defeated, for instance, any pretensions Everton may have of rescuing value from their recent recruiting cycles. It also asked questions of the depth of the club’s scouting and the attention which has been paid to personality and the kind of hidden attributes which win football matches when it absolutely matters.

Its greatest value, though, was in laying bare the squad’s deficiencies and showing – conclusively – that Ancelotti can’t be expected to win with this set of players.

The most efficient move at this point, then, must be to recognise that disconnect. Everton must understand that every turn they've taken over the last three years has been in error and that, as a result, they are now absolutely nowhere. They're not a couple of players away or in need of strengthening in just a few positions, but actually at zero - a point of total inferiority in relation to everything they measure themselves against.

They must start again, this time with some substance to their thinking.
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Best article I've read in the media about Everton in years. And it should be plastered on the dressing room walls.
 

davek said:
From FourFourTwo:

Everton's pitiful display in the Merseyside derby shows the scale of the challenge for Carlo Ancelotti

That’s a very harsh term, but it’s not an unfair one. Particularly because the longer the game remained scoreless, the more obvious it became that Everton would find a way to lose. It was telling, also, that Ancelotti’s veteran players were among the worst on the pitch and appeared to wilt the quickest. Gylfi Sigurdsson, Lucas Digne and Morgan Schneiderlin were all dismal, Theo Walcott was especially awful.

Instead of giving Everton their critical edge, those players – among others – appeared consumed by what a loss to this Liverpool would mean. Given the same opportunity in the same situation, tougher players of their standing would have relished the opportunity to slap that Liverpool team around. Really good footballers – the ones who have all the technical and emotional attributes – have that habit of giving lessons to young pretenders. They enjoy putting coming generations back in their place. They resent their achingly fashionable haircuts and colourful boots and take great pleasure in dosing out the humility.

But these Everton players don’t share that kind of personality. They’re victims. Losers. After Curtis Jones had scored the game’s only goal, there was no determination to respond, just petulance – from Fabian Delph and Yerry Mina – and self-pity. There wasn’t even the hint of an equaliser, let alone any sense that anybody's pride was being affronted. Instead, they stood back and let Liverpool pass the ball, allowing them a victory lap before full-time. It was unforgivable.



Who knows what Ancelotti made of it. Everton’s new manager is a serial winner, a three-time conqueror of the Champions League alone, and yet here he was, associating with players who cower just at the sight of the wrong-coloured shirt.

If there is any encouragement to draw, though, it’s in how unlikely he is to tolerate this situation. This, ultimately, was not just elimination from the FA Cup, but also a loss which came with subliminal messages. It defeated, for instance, any pretensions Everton may have of rescuing value from their recent recruiting cycles. It also asked questions of the depth of the club’s scouting and the attention which has been paid to personality and the kind of hidden attributes which win football matches when it absolutely matters.

Its greatest value, though, was in laying bare the squad’s deficiencies and showing – conclusively – that Ancelotti can’t be expected to win with this set of players.

The most efficient move at this point, then, must be to recognise that disconnect. Everton must understand that every turn they've taken over the last three years has been in error and that, as a result, they are now absolutely nowhere. They're not a couple of players away or in need of strengthening in just a few positions, but actually at zero - a point of total inferiority in relation to everything they measure themselves against.

They must start again, this time with some substance to their thinking.
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Great read and very true... this was a watershed moment.. what happens next will be interesting
 
davek said:
...and the only way we get the benefit of it is to get all obstacles cleared: Brands, Ferguson, Moshiri's meddling.
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The entire club needs clearing out.

Farhad needs to phone Usmsnov and say we need you today.
Kenwright needs to be sacked off and a real Chairman bought in.
DBB needs shifting off and a real CEO needs bringing in
We need more board members with more skills.
Need a massive clear out of the entire squad..
If Utd want DCL for 50 mil then sell him. If they want Rich for 80 mil sell him
 
MrGrumpy said:
The entire club needs clearing out.

Farhad needs to phone Usmsnov and say we need you today.
Kenwright needs to be sacked off and a real Chairman bought in.
DBB needs shifting off and a real CEO needs bringing in
We need more board members with more skills.
Need a massive clear out of the entire squad..
If Utd want DCL for 50 mil then sell him. If they want Rich for 80 mil sell him
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And get rid of that miserable barmaid at the park end.
 

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