2019/20 Carlo Ancelotti

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Eggsyblueskin said:
Ancelotti is without doubt a top , top manager.
He is the best we have ever signed.
Sadly I don’t think he is suited to our current plight.
Ironically Moshiri’s biggest success may also be his biggest failure.
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If the board stump up the cash and Ancelotti is here long enough to make the project work, Everton and him can succeed. Arguably we probably have a manager that is in the best 3 in the world. There are big improvements already, we are defending better and creating more chance, that’s with the same squad as Silva had.
 

Lowste said:
Yep agree
I think most people knew Silva was a decent fella, but didn’t have the backbone/experience or respect to get this group of players in line.
Ancelotti will, as he has all of the above, importantly he also has the backing of the fans

I do laugh over the comments on here of the players respecting Silva....
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Silva I think is one of the poorest managers I’ve ever seen, no plan B. Zonal marking, kept playing the same players whether they are performing or not. I’m over the moon he’s gone.
 
catcherintherye said:
I think Ancelotti did a deceptively good job getting them to 2nd last season. He was following on from 2 excellent managers (Benitez and Sarri) and hard to think they didn't peak really. The team now looks to be coming to the end of a cycle, lots of players heading into the late 20's and early 30's and not an awful lot of money available to replenish them. It's funny really, I get the same feeling looking at Tottenham (and I remember the same with Moyes at us at the end). I suspect having a manager of the quality of Ancelotti, with his ability to tactical manage games astutely masked a lot of wider issues.

In fairness to Ancelotti there is probably a lot of that in his career. He has followed top managers, at clubs with fantastic players but often when they were coming to the end of the cycle and he's kept the wheels ticking over as it were. He is very good at that, and I do wonder if he is the manager lots of people actually believe Mourinho to be? It's a big knee-jerk which I try to avoid, but I am not sure I would take a swap at this stage.

I think Napoli will hit a period of decline, and their owner may regret some of his antics.
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Never in a million years would I swap Ancelotti for Mourinho mate.
The latter is an attention seeking narcissist , who is highly likely to cause unrest , and never give young players a chance. He is toxic.
 
Coggy said:
Never in a million years would I swap Ancelotti for Mourinho mate.
The latter is an attention seeking narcissist , who is highly likely to cause unrest , and never give young players a chance. He is toxic.
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Yes I would probably agree with you. I think we have got the better end of that particular deal.
 

The time for "assessing" Ancelotti and the wisdom of his appointment should be way down the line. Two months ago some would have gone for the Bournemouth manager who is about to be sacked. Such is the football world.
 
everton1953 said:
The time for "assessing" Ancelotti and the wisdom of his appointment should be way down the line. Two months ago some would have gone for the Bournemouth manager who is about to be sacked. Such is the football world.
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You don't assess Carlo he does the assessing, and the wisdom of his appointment was getting him signed.
 
everton1953 said:
The time for "assessing" Ancelotti and the wisdom of his appointment should be way down the line. Two months ago some would have gone for the Bournemouth manager who is about to be sacked. Such is the football world.
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I would never have gone for howe as i think its the alan curbishley thing and charlton. However i also feel some of the stuff about eddie howe right now is harsh. Eddie howe has never gone on about how great eddie is. Other people did that and now some think its great to shoot him down even though it wasnt him bigging himself up. He's at bournemouth. A club with no real infrastructure to be in the top flight of english football. But he's kept them competing for a few years in a league where they are blitzed by almost all in size and availability to improve. But like wigan i feel they were always going to go and maybe this is the year. But i would add you could put all of the managers in the prem in the bournemouth job for 5 years and i think 90% of them would fail long term to keep them in the league.
 

Coggy said:
Never in a million years would I swap Ancelotti for Mourinho mate.
The latter is an attention seeking narcissist , who is highly likely to cause unrest , and never give young players a chance. He is toxic.
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Spot on. Mourinho has turned into right miserable get, and not a patch on the manager he once was. Ancelotti has more gas in the tank.
 
Gilbert.. said:
I would never have gone for howe as i think its the alan curbishley thing and charlton. However i also feel some of the stuff about eddie howe right now is harsh. Eddie howe has never gone on about how great eddie is. Other people did that and now some think its great to shoot him down even though it wasnt him bigging himself up. He's at bournemouth. A club with no real infrastructure to be in the top flight of english football. But he's kept them competing for a few years in a league where they are blitzed by almost all in size and availability to improve. But like wigan i feel they were always going to go and maybe this is the year. But i would add you could put all of the managers in the prem in the bournemouth job for 5 years and i think 90% of them would fail long term to keep them in the league.
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Yes. There seems to be an attitude that all managers and players fall into the categories, 'Great' (2%), or '[Poor language removed]' (98%). Howe is undoubtedly good. Given the constraints he's been working under, hard to know if he has greater potential or not.
 
Glasshalffull said:
Yes. There seems to be an attitude that all managers and players fall into the categories, 'Great' (2%), or '[Poor language removed]' (98%). Howe is undoubtedly good. Given the constraints he's been working under, hard to know if he has greater potential or not.
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It is. Its an unknown step for any bigger club and one i didnt want Everton to take. But some of the putting the boot in stuff i have read lately is harsh. He's a very honest and humble fella who has done wonders at a tiny club. They've also had an horrendous injury list this season. It prob hits a club like that more than others.
I hope they survive.
 

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