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2020/21 Carlo Ancelotti

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haven't got a clue what you are on about. off to watch the champions league semi, not something you will need to ever worry about.
buddy there is a better way then this. choose to be nice to others and u will have better grandoldteam.com experience. mr ancelotti has big season next season.
 

I don't think a player ever goes out to have a bad game.

I do believe that some of our players simply do not have it in them to be serial winners week after week.
I think the manager inherited a number of these and is playing them through lack of choice.
I certainly de believe he is getting some things wrong like consistently playing Gomes ahead of Davies.

I have seen us linked with Koulibaly and if signed I think it would be as much to raise the demnds on those around him as what the player himself can deliver.

I think we are probably short of leaders in the team, I can only imagine what prime Roy Keane would have done if playing with some of our current players...... the answer is he would have insisted they be moved on.... and that is what our manager will do.... but you can only really make worthwhile changes in a summer transfer window.
Keane insist they move on? More like give em a good kicking round the dressing room!
 
I am still supporting Carlo, I do think the problem has been the squad he inherited and imjuries to key players.
At this moment i'm sat on the fence. Was'nt sure when he first signed. Agree! have to give him some time to choose his own players. But i think THREE big summer windows to turn it round will be enough for me.
 
From the rumours or links to Everton it certainly looks like we are looking for the best players we can. Obviously none of us know which ones are true and which arent. We can only speculate. What players linked would you be happy seeing come in?

For me this would represent a massive and potentially club turning window.....

Demiral - Potential swap deal with Kean
Rabiot - Again include with swap deal with Kean
Coutinho - 30m plus add ons
Koulibaly - Include Mina in swap deal
Bale - Free but big wages

Cash wise you imagine this will cost less than £50/60m whilst adding some world class talent, then we just need a RB...... Add these to what we have now.

Pickford

Godfrey Koulibaly Demiral Digne

Rabiot Allan Doucoure

Coutinho DCL Richarlison
OR

Pickford

Godfrey Koulibaly Demiral Digne

Allan Rabiot/Doucoure

Bale James Coutinho

Richarlison/DCL
Lots of options there.....
It is a little like fantasy football because who knows what will happen once the window opens and what targets the club have. For what it is worth I would not want Bale anywhere near the club....I fear it would be an expensive mistake plus I just don’t like him
 
If he/we arent building for the long term, but rather trying to luck out and buy instant success then it will not end well for the club, with Carlo in charge or not.
We can't afford to get caught up in the notion that Carlo wants/needs instant success as the path our club takes, if it means we spend another £200m over his remaining term and are left with an ageing squad at the end of his tenure.
Has to be long term or not at all imo.
 

Carlo Ancelotti is prepared to take a tougher line with his players to erase the type of slow start that cost Everton dear against Aston Villa on Saturday.
Manager Ancelotti confessed he’d expected his side to pick up where they left off in a professional display to win at Arsenal the previous week.
The Italian was deeply frustrated, then, to suffer another home setback, which saw Everton’s top-six chances recede.
There remains time to make up ground, nonetheless, and Ancelotti is confident of having James Rodriguez back for Sunday’s visit to West Ham United.
The influential James was withdrawn from the team to face Villa as a precaution after being bothered by a calf issue in the warm-up.
Ancelotti wasn’t willing to hide behind that blow, conceding Everton fell short of his expectations at Goodison Park.
“It is difficult to say why [performance was below par], it was the same team that played with strong attitude at Arsenal,” Ancelotti told evertontv.
“The momentum was good, the training was good.


“It seemed the players were focused but not tonight [Saturday], they were not focused and, maybe, I need to push more on that aspect to have the players more ready when the game starts.
“James didn’t have a big problem but we didn’t want to take a risk.
“He could maybe do better [improve overall performance] and we had individual mistakes but it was a team mistake in this game.”
James “is going to play the next game”, confirmed Ancelotti, who had complimentary words for Jordan Pickford, following a fabulous performance from the goalkeeper, and scorer Dominic Calvert-Lewin, who reached 20 goals for the campaign.
“Jordan did his job – maybe some performances were good,” said Ancelotti.
“What was not good was the teamwork and the team performance.
“Dominic scored a goal but was not happy because we lost.
“This is the attitude we have to show, it doesn’t matter if you score a goal.
“The performance was not good and we lost an opportunity to stay in the fight [for European qualification], with more possibility.
“Now we have less possibility but, fortunately, we are still in the fight.”
That fight continues in east London at the weekend, when Everton can close the gap on fifth-placed West Ham to three points.
Tottenham Hotspur in sixth, the final Europa League qualifying spot, hold a four-point advantage over Everton but have played a game more.




Ancelotti was irked by his team missing the chance to get right on those teams’ shoulders, then, particularly as this was another opportunity passed up at Goodison.
They have two home games remaining – against Sheffield United and Wolverhampton Wanderers – and the objective is to win both, while sustaining the tremendous away form that has seen Everton win 10 games and counting on the road.
“This team was up and down,” added Ancelotti.
“We had good performances and fantastic results away.
“At home, maybe we are more comfortable and miss a little bit of concentration and a little bit of focus.
“I am frustrated because the game [against Villa] was not good, we didn’t start well, we didn’t show the attitude and spirit this kind of game needed.
“It was a vital game, an important game for us to keep fighting for Europe and we lost this opportunity.
“Fortunately for us, it is not the last opportunity, we have five more opportunities.
“But we have to show a different attitude at the beginning.
“At the beginning we conceded a lot of opportunities because we didn’t have balance, we missed easy passes and lost a lot of duels.
“Honestly, I am frustrated.”
“It seemed the players were focused but not tonight [Saturday], they were not focused and, maybe, I need to push more on that aspect to have the players more ready when the game starts"

I mean, isn't that literally his job to get the players ready?

It's not a shot saying he's failing but it seems like he's saying there players should get themselves prepared for a match when he's been here 18 months he should know that they are completely and utterly unable to do that. How does a world class manager like Carlo not see that this far in to the job?
 

West Ham tend to start games very sharp and on the front foot. We are normally the opposite. We’ll be 2 down in 10 minutes if Carlo doesn’t sort it.
 
West Ham tend to start games very sharp and on the front foot. We are normally the opposite. We’ll be 2 down in 10 minutes if Carlo doesn’t sort it.

David moyes simply is a better manager than carlo ancelotti in my opinion. I couldn't care less about trophies, something severely lacking by a lot of people is something called perspective. David moyes when at Everton did an unbelievable job, the kind of which hasn't been repeated by 4 or 5 managers since all with a bigger budget.

Carlo is by no means a mug and has done a very good job at most places in his career. But the perspective is that David moves at Everton on his budget was realistically competing with 14 teams to get that 5th place, the 4 above at the time were on a different planet with their budget so couldn't realistically be expected to be caught. David regularly achieved 5th and 6th places finishes. The idea that he's now doing the same at West ham is no fluke, it is further proof of his managerial ability.

The other jobs he had since leaving Everton can not be measured fairly as he simply didn't have any time to stamp his identity on those clubs.

I look at West ham now and see everything I grew up seeing watching Everton under Moyes. Their fans must be so proud of their performances and so confident that they can get a result anywhere. Everton as a comparison are the opposite. We just look terrible and one dimensional.

I will stick by Carlo for the mere fact that we have no other option at this time and it would cost too much to replace him. But I was calling for Moyes before we got Carlo and even started a thread and it got taken down. This kind of proudness from some people calling Moyes a traitor and the like is exactly the reason why we keep finding ourselves in these predicaments.

Its not all been negatives with Carlo but I dare say had we got Moyes instead we would be much much further in our progression towards the top than we are now.
 
I don't think he can properly judged until next season. Two summer windows to get players in that he wants and to add squad depth. If we end up finishing 8th/9th next season, then I think the criticism is valid.

I have great faith because the four key players (James, Doucoure, Allan and Godfrey) that all came in last window have improved us big time. We have just been stiff that we haven't been able to have them all play together.

Another core 4-5 players this off-season and we will be a different proposition. Trust Carlo, but judgement time for him is end of next season.
 
David moyes simply is a better manager than carlo ancelotti in my opinion. I couldn't care less about trophies, something severely lacking by a lot of people is something called perspective. David moyes when at Everton did an unbelievable job, the kind of which hasn't been repeated by 4 or 5 managers since all with a bigger budget.

Carlo is by no means a mug and has done a very good job at most places in his career. But the perspective is that David moves at Everton on his budget was realistically competing with 14 teams to get that 5th place, the 4 above at the time were on a different planet with their budget so couldn't realistically be expected to be caught. David regularly achieved 5th and 6th places finishes. The idea that he's now doing the same at West ham is no fluke, it is further proof of his managerial ability.

The other jobs he had since leaving Everton can not be measured fairly as he simply didn't have any time to stamp his identity on those clubs.

I look at West ham now and see everything I grew up seeing watching Everton under Moyes. Their fans must be so proud of their performances and so confident that they can get a result anywhere. Everton as a comparison are the opposite. We just look terrible and one dimensional.

I will stick by Carlo for the mere fact that we have no other option at this time and it would cost too much to replace him. But I was calling for Moyes before we got Carlo and even started a thread and it got taken down. This kind of proudness from some people calling Moyes a traitor and the like is exactly the reason why we keep finding ourselves in these predicaments.

Its not all been negatives with Carlo but I dare say had we got Moyes instead we would be much much further in our progression towards the top than we are now.

Checks notes from 2016

So people rate Guardiola as this great manager perhaps the best in the world but what defines a great manager.
Should a manager who is managing Barcelona with the best team in the world win the league and champions league... yes. he won the champions league twice with barcelona out of four attempts, he won the league 3 times out of 4. Is Luis Enrique a great manager too? or does he just managing a great team?
Should a manager with Bayern Munich win the champions league, a team who in his era there perhaps the best in the world.... yes, he didnt win it. He won the bundesliga 3 times but hardly surprising when he signed all their rivals best players from them, eg Lewandowski and Gotze.
My main point being, he failed at Bayern Munich, the league was a gimme for the them but ultimately the champions league he didnt even reach a final.
As for the premier league when did a team last win the league playing Barca esque style football? I dont think its been done. Look what that style did to Everton last season. Then compare Leicester's effective counter attack style.
For me Guardiola has done what has been expected of him as a whole on his career and certainly is no elite manager. His style will be found out and I expect him be struggling next season. I cant understand the hype and odds suggest Man City are huge favourites to win the league... not for me.
 

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