Seathestars
Player Valuation: £60m
Fantastic, regardless of who @TheBigIguana supports, there’s no disputing he’s a top of range knobhead
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2020/21 Carlo Ancelotti
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John from Bootle
Player Valuation: £10m
I've had this debate before. It's not classed as on target. Rightfully so, imo.
Take Coufal's attempt yesterday, for instance. It wasn't saved. It wasn't blocked. It wasn't a goal. So by definition, it wasn't on target.
Not officially.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Goes away to the team with the second best home record in the league without two of his best players (James Docuoure), wins it without them even having a shot on target.
Apparently not good enough for GOT though.
Apparently not good enough for GOT though.
Gwladysstreetlad
Player Valuation: £50m
We've won more games on the road this season then we ever have during the premier league era so far with eleven league victories. This shatters our previous best of nine from 08-09 and we've still go two more games to go. I'm just saying, the usual crowd are always ready to throw out a negative stat whenever something goes wrong so its nice to post a positive one.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Could you not have got this in before @the sniderman hung up his webs?
Once number 4 bored off, big oil was always next on the radar. Thiago was the kryptonite that gave him away. All he had to do was agree that he hadn’t met expectations but he couldn’t bring himself to do it. Making impassioned defences off RS players whilst devoting his time to slagging off a manager who has taken us from the bottom half to challenging europe? Completely normal Everton fan behaviour.
I'm happy with how we play away in that we have a plan and the players follow it.
My argument would be that the onus doesn't have to be on us to dominate in games mate. Maybe we feel that way but we clearly haven't been able to do it so just hope we can find a way around that.
I was really happy with the Spurs performance from an attacking perspective and just wanted to see us build on that, really. I think the system is a big thing and at home I'd say getting our full-backs pushed up as far as possible (so a back three) might be the way to go.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
There’s something about this season that no team seems to be as good at home. No way Liverpool lose 6 in a row at home, no way City lose to ten men Leeds at home, no way we lose so many normally if fans are there.
That said though it’s been the same for every team so for those criticising the home form they should also be praising the second best away record in the league.
100% good enough for me yesterday - I said as much straight off the bat. We played okay, bar that 20 min spell where we just aren't able to get out in the second halves of matches. If it was a one-off in that regard I wouldn't mind, but it hasn't been a one-off, as we've done it in pretty much every league game since October. Luckily yesterday we woke up again after Coufal hit the post and we were unlucky not to add to our lead at the end through King.
I accept that right now, for this season, this is what we have to do. I accept that we need better players. I don't accept that what we're seeing is going to be a way to play going forward though, whether home or away. But hopefully once these players come in, we don't have to just rely on it, even though it's a good tool to have.
Pabbers
Player Valuation: £60m
Yep.
Was not far off a perfect away performance, from a Carlo / Italian POV. I really enjoyed watching it, and felt we was nevr in anay danger.
We just need to find a way to play at home, against team sthat do similar to us away.
kenada_blue
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The only negative is the home form. As mentioned on BT Sport moons ago, even a half decent home record would've had us a few places higher in the table.
First full season was never gonna be perfect.
This is the thing though mate, unfortunately we can't use that argument because then - as you say - it would have impacted our away form.
The away results have been great. As Carlo himself said, more about spirit than quality. But there's likely no way we win 11 away games playing the way we have done in them if fans were in the ground. Not because we've played poorly, but because it's all backs to the wall stuff and if those home teams had a bit more impetus from the fans/pressure on refs etc, it could be different.
Whereas, honestly, I can't actually think of one home game that we've lost since the turn of the year where we can reasonably put it down to a lack of fans from a performance perspective.
For example, if we had played the system we did v Burnley at home and there'd been 40,000 fans in, we'd still have been ripped to shreds through the middle because there was a huge gap. Similarly against Fulham, if we'd have played with the five slow central mids in the Xmas tree, we'd still have been passed around whether fans were in there or not.
Maybe we might have rescued a draw in some matches, but that's why I think the argument about fans is a difficult one to make, because as you say it's the same for every team. And I think in these specific home games - Fulham, Burnley, Villa - our downfall has been as much on the tactics, system, lack of attacking identity, as it was on the players.
kenada_blue
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I just figured it was obvious to everyone and didn't feel the need to vault him before. But as @Seathestars pointed out, even on the off chance he's not an RS and is genuinely a weird Everton supporter, he's still an utter knobhead whatever way you slice it.
I honestly think this is another misconception mate.
I think the only sides that have done that are West Ham and Newcastle and to a lesser extent Palace, though if we're just looking at defeats...
Leeds - mad game but they deserved to win, they were far better than us
Fulham - played our slow CMs off the park
Burnley - literally ran through us at will
Aston Villa - see above for Burnley
Most teams don't come to sit back against us at Goodison. They come to attack us.
I can take or leave the Leeds game, they're a mad team. But the other three, they weren't coming to defend, they came to take the game to us and did just that.
Edit: Fully agree on yesterday's performance. Generally very good defensively, albeit got lucky with Benrahma header and Coufal shot, but you need luck. Offensively, I don't understand why we're consistently so poor in the second half of matches and have been in every game all season, but we got the points.
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