2020/21 Carlo Ancelotti

[COYBL25]

A ground we haven't won at in 22 years?

We have to win there sometime.

They`re obviously not glugging the Speialize Brau anymore, so why not ?

 

[degsy]

A ground we haven't won at in 22 years?

Why not, its only a number.
Fulham turned over a much bigger one.
Never say never.

 

[TheSecondComing]

We have to win there sometime.

They`re obviously not glugging the Speialize Brau anymore, so why not ?

That phrase would be all well if we was actually any good which we haven't been since 2013-2014 and we a rinsing then to.

 

[Thomasc]

if we don’t finish in a European place from all the chances we’ve had to get back into the top 4 since December, I’d say anything less would be a massive failure personally.
Sure this season was never going to be plain sailing, but come on! It’s like people are willing to accept failure already and give a million excuses.
We know we don’t have a strong squad and strength in depth, but seriously, from where we are and the chances we have had to keep on the coat tails of the top 4 it’s seriously looking like we’ve just not been up to the job, or have turned in piss poor performances every time we’ve got anywhere near.
Anybody would think we are allergic to doing well.
By the way, I’m aware Spurs fans will be saying exactly the same too.
It’s a bit grim to see how much we have fallen behind Leicester again. Or is everybody just in mass acceptance now that this is just our place in the pecking order and we should just expect to finish below them?

from the start we had we should be optimistic, but I feel there’s a line we all have to buy into now which is that this season was never going to yield anything anyway. It’s such a losers mentality it’s actually quite sad.

 

[TheSecondComing]

Why not, its only a number.
Fulham turned over a much bigger one.
Never say never.

How many of those games at Anfield have we actually deserved to win I can name two.

Beckford when we went 2-1 up and then another one of inept keepers decided to take out Maxi Rodriguez for no reason and the second one involved AJ 1 on 1 with Pepe Reina and all he had to do was lift it off the ground.

There might be one or two closer to 1999 but for the life of me I can't remember.

 

[helpimonfire]

Why not, its only a number.
Fulham turned over a much bigger one.
Never say never.

This is the attitude to have

 

[Sharpies volley]

Out of pure curiosity, who exactly??

Quite a few of there players actually. But one who stands out for me is Henderson. A very average player in my opinion. But who has come good under Klipperty. He just does what he says on the tin. Milners carear was all but over and ahain an average footballer but good utility player. Salah hadn't exactly pulled up any trees until Klopp brought him in. Firminho was being hung out to dry by most of my RS mates look how he's improved under Klopp. Wjnaldum another. Can't think of anymore off the top of my head.

 

[Sharpies volley]

It’s all well and good but if you have a team full of snails who don’t want to or refuse to dig deep in the trenches when we are on the back foot then what else can he do? He’s not going to suddenly turn Sigurdsson into a decent Dynamo playmaker, he’s not going to turn Andre Gomes into a quick agile defensive midfielder, he’s not gonna turn Alex Iwobi into a fast paced highly confident winger who just runs at people constantly and gets back to help out defensively when needed. This is what he’s having to work with recently due to injuries and players badly out of form.

That's exactly what I said. Some players will never be any good.

 

[quasi modo]

Imagine logging on and coming into the carlo thread feeling high and mighty cause we didn't beat one the best teams in the world.

Or Fulham.

 

[Sharpies volley]

Flatter to deceive. The only one that did it successfully was Fergie. He'd turn your Phil Neville's and John O'Sheas into title winners.

First you need character and drive to even be able to tap into that. In context to us...none of them do and it's been proved under a number of managers.

Sorry mate I don't know how long you've been watching or following football. But a lot of the truly great managers did it long before Fergie. Shankly turned them from 2nd div also ranks to champions. Stein turned a gang of ale swilling Glasweigens into euro champs. Clough turned a gang of washed up journeymen into euro champs and there's more.

 

[kenada_blue]

Sorry mate I don't know how long you've been watching or following football. But a lot of the truly great managers did it long before Fergie. Shankly turned them from 2nd div also ranks to champions. Stein turned a gang of ale swilling Glasweigens into euro champs. Clough turned a gang of washed up journeymen into euro champs and there's more.

Before my time and proves the point more that it's the players mentality first.

 

[royalblue66]

Sorry mate I don't know how long you've been watching or following football. But a lot of the truly great managers did it long before Fergie. Shankly turned them from 2nd div also ranks to champions. Stein turned a gang of ale swilling Glasweigens into euro champs. Clough turned a gang of washed up journeymen into euro champs and there's more.

And Howie.

 

[Sharpies volley]

Before my time.

But the point is the players mentality first.

Absolutely spot on mate, but isn't that part of the managers job as well. Motervation, psychology, etc.

 

[COYBL25]

Quite a few of there players actually. But one who stands out for me is Henderson. A very average player in my opinion. But who has come good under Klipperty. He just does what he says on the tin. Milners carear was all but over and ahain an average footballer but good utility player. Salah hadn't exactly pulled up any trees until Klopp brought him in. Firminho was being hung out to dry by most of my RS mates look how he's improved under Klopp. Wjnaldum another. Can't think of anymore off the top of my head.

You do know they`ve all been juiced up to their eyeballs for the last two seasons don`t you ?

 

[bicycleheader]

There has been one game out of fifty one that ancelotti hasn’t got sigurdsson on the pitch in. He has made him captain, started him, brought him on when we’re ahead, behind, and level, and shoehorned him in in positions he clearly can’t play. The idea that he doesn’t rate him and just has his hands tied is honestly one of the weirdest arguments I’ve seen on here. He clearly really rates him, the evidence is pretty indisputable I’d have thought.

I can’t be arsed going into great detail but I don’t think it’s as clear as you paint it. I reckon it’s been a different scenario in different parts of this season.

last season I wouldn’t even count. He was working with whatever crap he had. This season he benched him and we seemed to have a first choice MF without him, until Gomes went crap and got injured. Then at various points you have had other options in MF and/or in the front three not available or also in crap form.

I can’t stand the player but I still think it holds up as reasonable that he uses him so much this season, because I look at other options and can’t see a screamingly loud and clear argument for them being in over him at each point. Even if I’d personally just drop him in the Mersey

at this point I reckon it’s more likely we keep the blert but I believe recruitment should mean we never use him apart from a sub option in the final third