BluePaul86
Player Valuation: £8m
Swapping one Chelsea crock for another. What could go wrong?
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striker needed, if chuka is dominant
maybe he wants him nxt to gueye like mangala?
and winger also need
i like him but a striker is a must
if we do manage to go for Ferguson permanent we should go out all the stops to get Carney as a loan in place of Broja, I’m still keen on Chilwell on loan too
deffo one for the summer once loans are reset, or permanent if we have the cash then
if we do manage to go for Ferguson permanent we should go out all the stops to get Carney as a loan in place of Broja, I’m still keen on Chilwell on loan too
deffo one for the summer once loans are reset, or permanent if we have the cash then
more chance of signing karen carney
PeregrineT
Player Valuation: £40m
I believe talk of Longstaff was a permanent deal, for around 10m.
I dont see any way to loan anyone but another player from Chelsea
Same for even the short term for experience, i get the views on chuk if was a losn with an option.
Same will be unless pay them out for broja but atleadt make easier to do another with them
WestStandLower
Player Valuation: £1.5m
He is indeed.
In this link is a goal he scored last season against WHU. One which I thought sought would see his career kick on but alas he suffered an injury
Carney Chukwuemeka's Premier League goal involvements
With Chelsea's Carney Chukwuemeka linked with a move to Manchester United, take a look at his goal involvements in the Premier League.
www.skysports.com
As for a massive strand of our owners approach is to see players like him as pawns ( valuable ones at that ) and they have gambled that most of these young players will become more attractive and their values increase mainly due to their potential being displayed in the odd first team appearance or just as likely out on loan .
The days of PL clubs spending silly sums on players in their late 20s will become rare not just at Chelsea but likely most clubs.
When you look at transfer fees it’s quite interesting to view them historically against clubs income. When Forest paid £1 million for Trevor Francis that sum I believe that sum was close to Forests annual income. What I guess I am saying today’s fees aren’t quite as mad as they were in the late 70s or indeed into the 80s.
Over the last 10 or so years vast sums flowed from PL clubs coffers to clubs outside England. That’s not going to end but we are now seeing that there appears to be an appetite to buy from English academies where it’s becoming common place to pay £10-£20 million for players who haven’t played more than a handful of first team games that inevitably pushes up the value of players in they’re early 20s.
WestStandLower
Player Valuation: £1.5m
Pretty much based on appearances which yes have been limited but hey as they say footballs all about opinionsGreat insight. If only it was based on evidence.
Billy Dean
Player Valuation: £70m
That injury was unfortunate timing as he was impressing Poch at that time IIRC.He is indeed.
In this link is a goal he scored last season against WHU. One which I thought sought would see his career kick on but alas he suffered an injury
Carney Chukwuemeka's Premier League goal involvements
With Chelsea's Carney Chukwuemeka linked with a move to Manchester United, take a look at his goal involvements in the Premier League.www.skysports.com
As for a massive strand of our owners approach is to see players like him as pawns ( valuable ones at that ) and they have gambled that most of these young players will become more attractive and their values increase mainly due to their potential being displayed in the odd first team appearance or just as likely out on loan .
The days of PL clubs spending silly sums on players in their late 20s will become rare not just at Chelsea but likely most clubs.
When you look at transfer fees it’s quite interesting to view them historically against clubs income. When Forest paid £1 million for Trevor Francis that sum I believe that sum was close to Forests annual income. What I guess I am saying today’s fees aren’t quite as mad as they were in the late 70s or indeed into the 80s.
Over the last 10 or so years vast sums flowed from PL clubs coffers to clubs outside England. That’s not going to end but we are now seeing that there appears to be an appetite to buy from English academies where it’s becoming common place to pay £10-£20 million for players who haven’t played more than a handful of first team games that inevitably pushes up the value of players in they’re early 20s.
Think the idea is Broja goes back and we get a different Chelsea player on loan.
Kind of works for everyone - we get a player, Chelsea get an income and they put a different player in the shop window.
But also doesn't - we're not really filling a position we most need to and there is limited choice. Probably also have to pay a bit extra.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
We absolutely certainly are?
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
He is indeed.
In this link is a goal he scored last season against WHU. One which I thought sought would see his career kick on but alas he suffered an injury
Carney Chukwuemeka's Premier League goal involvements
With Chelsea's Carney Chukwuemeka linked with a move to Manchester United, take a look at his goal involvements in the Premier League.www.skysports.com
As for a massive strand of our owners approach is to see players like him as pawns ( valuable ones at that ) and they have gambled that most of these young players will become more attractive and their values increase mainly due to their potential being displayed in the odd first team appearance or just as likely out on loan .
The days of PL clubs spending silly sums on players in their late 20s will become rare not just at Chelsea but likely most clubs.
When you look at transfer fees it’s quite interesting to view them historically against clubs income. When Forest paid £1 million for Trevor Francis that sum I believe that sum was close to Forests annual income. What I guess I am saying today’s fees aren’t quite as mad as they were in the late 70s or indeed into the 80s.
Over the last 10 or so years vast sums flowed from PL clubs coffers to clubs outside England. That’s not going to end but we are now seeing that there appears to be an appetite to buy from English academies where it’s becoming common place to pay £10-£20 million for players who haven’t played more than a handful of first team games that inevitably pushes up the value of players in they’re early 20s.
Thanks mate, very interesting. I think there's a lot going on re valuations currently. Like the PL is now so far ahead of the rest of Europe, there does eventually become a bit of an anchor on spend.
And you're absolutely right as well on late 20s, I said as much a few years back. What interests me is that a lot of this is linked to the PL rules, and I'm going to say the objectively ridiculous way they enforced them last season. I think it's bad a huge impact and change in behaviour, and probably not entirely for the better.
What I find fascinating is, it becomes a bit like a ponzi scheme. As you say it used to be like players in their 30s had no value, then that got shifted to late 20s and now it's even pushing towards mid 20s. I do wonder where it ends, if people start to say how much is say a 25 year old worth, of nobody is willing to pay anything at 27?
I wonder if the new rules may change this a bit?
There seems to be two ways around it really, one is the Chelsea method which is bulk buy loads of teenagers. The other is the European clubs way, which is essentially see "older" players have value, and effectively take them off PL clubs quite cheaply.
Sorry that's like a huge tangent. On the face of it, what are Chelsea are doing make sense. I think the challenge for Chelsea is probably 2 fold, namely:
1) The clubs you might sell to below you are now less willing to keep spending big (basically due to PSR).
2) You have a big over supply of these players, so people can sense you're in a weaknened negotiation position
3) A bit of a bonus one, but those players can't get enough minutes, so don't develop/become frustrated.
Anyway in a roundabout way, Id love CC on a loan, I think it would be a good fit!
14_dollars
Player Valuation: £10m
Chelsea have refused to take Broja back.
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