Transfer Rumour Carney Chukwuemeka

[hallamblue]

Loan with option to buy would be a good deal. That was how Moyes used to operate and how we got the likes of Arteta back in the day.

 

[gedefc]

Chelsea have refused to take Broja back.

the only way thatll happen is if we give them inflated fee for a Carney or KDH loan

 

[Amokachi1995]

We absolutely certainly are?

Fair enough. I've never seen him play. My point was more if we could look right across the domestic market we might use the loan spot for a striker which i think is more of a priority than a midfielder.

 

[catcherintherye]

Chelsea have refused to take Broja back.

I think he goes back

 

[14_dollars]

the only way thatll happen is if we give them inflated fee for a Carney or KDH loan

Chelsea hold all the aces and will milk it for all it’s worth.

They are laughing at Thelwell’s face.

 

[Amokachi1995]

Chelsea have refused to take Broja back.

There's always a deal to be done. I think, understandably, they're not just willing to rip up the contract.

 

[hallamblue]

There's always a deal to be done. I think, understandably, they're not just willing to rip up the contract.

Chelsea have chucked £1.2 billion at their team, I shouldn't think they care about the money, they probably just don't want him back.

 

[devon_blue]

Chelsea have chucked £1.2 billion at their team, I shouldn't think they care about the money, they probably just don't want him back.

I reckon the opposite could also be true - given the size of investment they only care about the money and want as much as possible for their financial gymnastics routine

 

[Clarky cat]

Chelsea hold all the aces and will milk it for all it’s worth.

They are laughing at Thelwell’s nose.

 

[WestStandLower]

Chelsea have chucked £1.2 billion at their team, I shouldn't think they care about the money, they probably just don't want him back.

Think you are completely miss reading the situation. They care deeply about money and will be looking at the overall picture in terms of turning a profit.
Part of the purchase agreement was that they had to invest in the playing side. Losing Rudiger and Christiansen for free will have stung them and whilst many take the mick out of them offering long contracts most of their critics have misunderstood what the reasons ( plural) why these extended deals were on offer. Of course in PSR terms it reduced expenses but in accounting terms the asset doesn’t quickly decrease to a point where there is no potential sell on value.
It’s easy to fall into the trap of saying that £1.2 billion has been spent on the team and yes the players have cost a packet but alongside players that already have featured in the PL there are a significant “ stock” of youngsters that cost a decent sum players like Kendry Perez already a regular in his international team then you have a stream of Brazilian players players that will be in our squad over the next year or two
Of course not all these youngsters will develop, they never do, but the owners have these highly thought of youngsters under long term contracts and their fees( or ant least the bulk ) is already paid and also other players currently in the squad will depart many for a profit
In terms of Broja of course Chelsea will take him back but on terms that suit Chelsea. The fact he ties up a loan spot is a significant bargaining chip in Chelsea’s favour and Everton really haven’t ( sadly from your perspective) got any option but to pay one way or another.

 

[dulle]

For what it’s worth, he has played with Tim Iroegbunam at Aston Villa and England U-19. Could be a nice reunion, maybe?

 

[ValBlue]

Think the idea is Broja goes back and we get a different Chelsea player on loan.

Kind of works for everyone - we get a player, Chelsea get an income and they put a different player in the shop window.

But also doesn't - we're not really filling a position we most need to and there is limited choice. Probably also have to pay a bit extra.

It doesn’t work for everyone though really does it? Chelsea don’t really win out of this unless we jump to their tune. Broja is going to be out of commission until next season. There’s interest in Carney. Why would they let us take him and burden themselves with a long term injury? Exactly as you say, we will need to pay extra, which we simply aren’t in a position to do. The only way it happens is if we lose and take all of the hit (deservedly)

If this still hinges on ‘if we can cancel the loan’ then every noise, credible and not, have repeatedly said that’s not on the cards. And if the club changes its minds at the last minute, it gets what it deserves

 

[Billy Dean]

It doesn’t work for everyone though really does it? Chelsea don’t really win out of this unless we jump to their tune. Broja is going to be out of commission until next season. There’s interest in Carney. Why would they let us take him and burden themselves with a long term injury? Exactly as you say, we will need to pay extra, which we simply aren’t in a position to do. The only way it happens is if we lose and take all of the hit (deservedly)

If this still hinges on ‘if we can cancel the loan’ then every noise, credible and not, have repeatedly said that’s not on the cards. And if the club changes its minds at the last minute, it gets what it deserves

Another possibility might be that if they don't have any other takers for him they might be more willing to be lenient in some way?

 

[Evertonthat]

It doesn’t work for everyone though really does it? Chelsea don’t really win out of this. Broja is going to be out of commission until next season. There’s interest in Carney. Why would they let us take him and burden themselves with a long term injury? Exactly as you say, we will need to pay extra.

If this still hinges on ‘if we can cancel the loan’ then every noise, credible and not, have repeatedly said that’s not on the cards. And if the club changes its minds at the last minute, it gets what it deserves

Chelsea are burdened with an injured Broja if they like it or not. Even if he's out on loan or in their own medical room, he's still their player. They will be gutted he hasn't been able to perform at Everton, because I'm sure they'd have liked us to buy him outright in the summer, and that's not happening now.

Chelsea's model relies on them loaning out fringe players and selling them on. Its in their interest to take Broja back and loan us another player, as that's their only chance of converting a loan into a sale.

 

[ValBlue]

Chelsea are burdened with an injured Broja if they like it or not. Even if he's out on loan or in their own medical room, he's still their player. They will be gutted he hasn't been able to perform at Everton, because I'm sure they'd have liked us to buy him outright in the summer, and that's not happening now.

Chelsea's model relies on them loaning out fringe players and selling them on. Its in their interest to take Broja back and loan us another player, as that's their only chance of converting a loan into a sale.

We’re probably buying him outright in summer. He could have passed from this mortal realm and we’d throw in a bid