2018/19 Cenk Tosun

[davids]

He's an old fashioned target man. His mobility, or lack of, means he will never be a good enough option. I saw enough last January when he was being outpaced by Gareth Barry. I don't see the point in persisting with something that is never going to work.

Nevermind his massive lack of pace, his movement and overall efforts are bordering on disgraceful. Would love to see his sprint statistics in his last 3 appearances....

Target man? Doesn't have the physical presence for that.Playing off a target man,yes.But doubt Silva would explore that option.

 

[Kever10]

Sooooooooo, Cenk Tosun then? Pretty Jelavic int he.

I wish

 

[davids]

I wish

Which Jelavic?

 

[BlueToff]

He's an old fashioned target man. His mobility, or lack of, means he will never be a good enough option. I saw enough last January when he was being outpaced by Gareth Barry. I don't see the point in persisting with something that is never going to work.

Nevermind his massive lack of pace, his movement and overall efforts are bordering on disgraceful. Would love to see his sprint statistics in his last 3 appearances....

He's not a target man at all, though.

At Besiktas he actually played on the left of a front three of strikers.

And no, they haven't. You're going overboard once again.

His movement and effort in the first three games were good. He was crucial in giving Walcott and Richarlison the space to operate in, and look at his play for Richarlison's goal v Wolves, or the goal that got wrongly disallowed against Southampton.

And okay, here's the physical stats so far for him this season in the Prem:

Arsenal (23 minutes)
Distance covered - 2.68km / Sprints - 3 / Avg speed - 7.15kmh / Top speed - 28.83kmh

West Ham (69 minutes)
Distance covered - 7.40km / Sprints - 5 / Avg speed - 6.30kmh / Top speed - 31.01kmh

Huddersfield (no stats available)

Bournemouth (84 minutes)
Distance covered - 9.82km / Sprints - 12 / Avg speed - 6.77kmh / Top speed - 31.38kmh

Southampton (75 minutes)
Distance covered - 7.86km / Sprints - 16 (second most in the team behind Coleman) / Avg speed - 6.08kmh / Top speed - 32.01kmh

Wolves (81 minutes)
Distance covered - 9.53km / Sprints - 5 / Avg speed - 6.80kmh / Top speed- 30.97kmh

I'm not saying we don't need better. But we spent £25m on him and he's a good finisher. He works hard and his link play is generally good. He desperately needs a goal.

But, we shouldn't be binning him off above Niasse in January. Cenk as a second option, or an option to play two strikers (imagine that!) is how we improve.

 

[ToffeeTim]

He's not a target man at all, though.

At Besiktas he actually played on the left of a front three of strikers.

And no, they haven't. You're going overboard once again.

His movement and effort in the first three games were good. He was crucial in giving Walcott and Richarlison the space to operate in, and look at his play for Richarlison's goal v Wolves, or the goal that got wrongly disallowed against Southampton.

And okay, here's the physical stats so far for him this season in the Prem:

Arsenal (23 minutes)
Distance covered - 2.68km / Sprints - 3 / Avg speed - 7.15kmh / Top speed - 28.83kmh

West Ham (69 minutes)
Distance covered - 7.40km / Sprints - 5 / Avg speed - 6.30kmh / Top speed - 31.01kmh

Huddersfield (no stats available)

Bournemouth (84 minutes)
Distance covered - 9.82km / Sprints - 12 / Avg speed - 6.77kmh / Top speed - 31.38kmh

Southampton (75 minutes)
Distance covered - 7.86km / Sprints - 16 (second most in the team behind Coleman) / Avg speed - 6.08kmh / Top speed - 32.01kmh

Wolves (81 minutes)
Distance covered - 9.53km / Sprints - 5 / Avg speed - 6.80kmh / Top speed- 30.97kmh

I'm not saying we don't need better. But we spent £25m on him and he's a good finisher. He works hard and his link play is generally good. He desperately needs a goal.

But, we shouldn't be binning him off above Niasse in January. Cenk as a second option, or an option to play two strikers (imagine that!) is how we improve.

I don't rate him at all. And I don't think he suits Silva. And I don't think Silva rates him. And the West Ham numbers show he was not putting in a shift. The difference between it and say Bournemouth is crazy.

He needs chances on a plate. Even when they were on a plate he missed them. So unless he's deadly in front of goal, we get nothing from him at all. Not ideal.

 

[RobC]

He's not a target man at all, though.

At Besiktas he actually played on the left of a front three of strikers.

And no, they haven't. You're going overboard once again.

His movement and effort in the first three games were good. He was crucial in giving Walcott and Richarlison the space to operate in, and look at his play for Richarlison's goal v Wolves, or the goal that got wrongly disallowed against Southampton.

And okay, here's the physical stats so far for him this season in the Prem:

Arsenal (23 minutes)
Distance covered - 2.68km / Sprints - 3 / Avg speed - 7.15kmh / Top speed - 28.83kmh

West Ham (69 minutes)
Distance covered - 7.40km / Sprints - 5 / Avg speed - 6.30kmh / Top speed - 31.01kmh

Huddersfield (no stats available)

Bournemouth (84 minutes)
Distance covered - 9.82km / Sprints - 12 / Avg speed - 6.77kmh / Top speed - 31.38kmh

Southampton (75 minutes)
Distance covered - 7.86km / Sprints - 16 (second most in the team behind Coleman) / Avg speed - 6.08kmh / Top speed - 32.01kmh

Wolves (81 minutes)
Distance covered - 9.53km / Sprints - 5 / Avg speed - 6.80kmh / Top speed- 30.97kmh

I'm not saying we don't need better. But we spent £25m on him and he's a good finisher. He works hard and his link play is generally good. He desperately needs a goal.

But, we shouldn't be binning him off above Niasse in January. Cenk as a second option, or an option to play two strikers (imagine that!) is how we improve.

Don't remember anyone else interested in him and I think that speaks for itself.

 

[zzr45]

His average speed is a saunter.

 

[Charro]

Don't remember anyone else interested in him and I think that speaks for itself.

No one else was interested in Richarlison.

So quick to write off players on here. He was good for us last season in a limited system.

Hopefully a break out the team can get him back on form.

 

[RobC]

No one else was interested in Richarlison.

So quick to write off players on here. He was good for us last season in a limited system.

Hopefully a break out the team can get him back on form.

You say that like its a good thing and I was also talking about Tosun.

 

[Charro]

You say that like its a good thing and I was also talking about Tosun.

It's an irrelevant thing.

 

[orly]

No one else was interested in Richarlison.

So quick to write off players on here. He was good for us last season in a limited system.

Hopefully a break out the team can get him back on form.

I don't think that's true at all - it's more we have a very shrewd core of posters who quickly and accurately judge whether a player is up to the task

 

[Steve0]

The amount of times I heard people saying without Lukaku's goals we would still have finished 7th. Moronic.

Well we finished 8th without them.

 

[davids]

No one else was interested in Richarlison.

So quick to write off players on here. He was good for us last season in a limited system.

Hopefully a break out the team can get him back on form.

Nobody was interested in Richarlison because of the way his form nose dived last season,if he'd maintained it from his start with Watford he wouldn't be here now.

 

[RobC]

It's an irrelevant thing.

You've lost me with that devastating logic. All the players we have signed have had very limited appeal to other teams and people are surprised when they turn out to be crap.

 

[Khalekan]

He's not a target man at all, though.

At Besiktas he actually played on the left of a front three of strikers.

And no, they haven't. You're going overboard once again.

His movement and effort in the first three games were good. He was crucial in giving Walcott and Richarlison the space to operate in, and look at his play for Richarlison's goal v Wolves, or the goal that got wrongly disallowed against Southampton.

And okay, here's the physical stats so far for him this season in the Prem:

Arsenal (23 minutes)
Distance covered - 2.68km / Sprints - 3 / Avg speed - 7.15kmh / Top speed - 28.83kmh

West Ham (69 minutes)
Distance covered - 7.40km / Sprints - 5 / Avg speed - 6.30kmh / Top speed - 31.01kmh

Huddersfield (no stats available)

Bournemouth (84 minutes)
Distance covered - 9.82km / Sprints - 12 / Avg speed - 6.77kmh / Top speed - 31.38kmh

Southampton (75 minutes)
Distance covered - 7.86km / Sprints - 16 (second most in the team behind Coleman) / Avg speed - 6.08kmh / Top speed - 32.01kmh

Wolves (81 minutes)
Distance covered - 9.53km / Sprints - 5 / Avg speed - 6.80kmh / Top speed- 30.97kmh

I'm not saying we don't need better. But we spent £25m on him and he's a good finisher. He works hard and his link play is generally good. He desperately needs a goal.

But, we shouldn't be binning him off above Niasse in January. Cenk as a second option, or an option to play two strikers (imagine that!) is how we improve.

Toff.....you really are morphing into our very own Statto

Splendid work, pal