Censorship in action

[Simon Paul]

The apology is for personal insults that have been made on NSNO's forums and in the past through the editorial content.

Our moderation policy has changed over the past few months, and uncalled for personal insults aren't tolerated. This extends to people who visit the site but don't post.

The editorial policy remains the same, infact the moderation policy remains the same as it did yesterday, the day before, and even the months before. We've just detailed the meetings that have been going on, and made our statement public.

If we get told lies, we will point them out - but we will do it in a grown up and reasoned fashion.

NSNO instigated these meetings by the way, not the club.

 

[davek]

Just read the reaction on the NSNO forum. To say it's being taken as a humiliating climbdown is an understatement. Sorry Si, I know the line of 'being grown up' about the relationship is being spun, but that's not flying for me.

Is this a joke? Is it the equivalent of April Fools Day in Kazakhstan or something????

 

[Goat]

Yeah fair play for having your principles and sticking by them.

Oh wait.

 

[Nebbiolo]

The apology is for personal insults that have been made on NSNO's forums and in the past through the editorial content.

Our moderation policy has changed over the past few months, and uncalled for personal insults aren't tolerated. This extends to people who visit the site but don't post.

The editorial policy remains the same, infact the moderation policy remains the same as it did yesterday, the day before, and even the months before. We've just detailed the meetings that have been going on, and made our statement public.

If we get told lies, we will point them out - but we will do it in a grown up and reasoned fashion.

NSNO instigated these meetings by the way, not the club.

Sounds fair enough. I check your forum all the time, and I would say that there is a tendency of some to go too far with the insults. It's not Kipper, but it's moderation policy could be tightened.

But it's a good site, mate. I can understand precisely why you would take this move.

 

[Goat]

After the carrot comes the stick.

 

[davek]

Right on cue I receive an infraction from Welton Toffee for 'abusing' Lance Armstrong (Welton is a BIG Lance fan, btw).

May I take this opportunity to apologise to Lance Armstrong and hope that I can have a mature working relationship with him in the future? Thanks for listening Lance.

<shakes head>

 

[teppic]

viva!

 

[Goat]

Davey got the stick. Well played. Hit him some more mods, his anti-Kenwright stance hurts my senses.

 

[Simon Paul]

Just read the reaction on the NSNO forum. To say it's being taken as a humiliating climbdown is an understatement. Sorry Si, I know the line of 'being grown up' about the relationship is being spun, but that's not flying for me.

Is this a joke? Is it the equivalent of April Fools Day in Kazakhstan or something????

To be honest, what it was, was pointing out that something that had caused an awful lot of hard feeling no longer happened.

People at the club had issues with personal insults eminating from our forum and our editorial content aimed at them. This hasn't happened for months now, through natural progression or people getting bored, or something. But whatever the reason, it stopped ages ago.

I pointed that out, asked for a way to put it behind us, and this was the upshot. Apologies swapped and accepted. Moving on.

During all the discussions with staff at the club, both parties repeated that constructive criticism is what forums are about. Both parties also agreed that it can be done without resorting to petty name-calling.

That's about it really.

 

[davek]

Davey got the stick. Well played. Hit him some more mods, his anti-Kenwright stance hurts my senses.

I think I may have just used the words 'bloomin 'ell' under my breath when I received notification. <waits for a mod decision>

 

[ohevertonohweloveverton]

Sell out.

 

[davek]

To be honest, what it was, was pointing out that something that had caused an awful lot of hard feeling no longer happened.

People at the club had issues with personal insults eminating from our forum and our editorial content aimed at them. This hasn't happened for months now, through natural progression or people getting bored, or something. But whatever the reason, it stopped ages ago.

I pointed that out, asked for a way to put it behind us, and this was the upshot. Apologies swapped and accepted. Moving on.

During all the discussions with staff at the club, both parties repeated that constructive criticism is what forums are about. Both parties also agreed that it can be done without resorting to petty name-calling.

That's about it really.

Si, I think once you break bread with that lot you're gonna find it hard keeping any semblance of credibility. Why would you want some ill defined 'normative' relationship with them in any case? They (the club have an agenda that necessitates a huge dollop of cynicism and questioning of their stance. I look at the People's Forum and that cherishes its independence. I cant see how they're non-existant relationship with the club hinders their forum.

 

[davek]

I think I may have just used the words 'bloomin 'ell' under my breath when I received notification. <waits for a mod decision>

The Jury's in: Bl**min is out. I repeat OUT!!!

 

[Simon Paul]

Si, I think once you break bread with that lot you're gonna find it hard keeping any semblance of credibility. Why would you want some ill defined 'normative' relationship with them in any case? They (the club have an agenda that necessitates a huge dollop of cynicism and questioning of their stance. I look at the People's Forum and that cherishes its independence. I cant see how they're non-existant relationship with the club hinders their forum.

Is that what you think of this forum then?

Having a working relationship where issues can be discussed and worked through is how things are done properly.

As detailed above, nothing has changed since about 3 months ago when I realised that things no longer happened that caused problems. Staff at the club realise that we will continue to scrutinise their every move and decision, they also appreciate that it will be done without un-necessary name-calling and insults.

I'll ask your question in a different way too. Why would anyone NOT want a cordial relationship with staff at the club they support?

 

[Goat]

I will ask you a question, what did they offer you in order for you to adopt your "new and improved relationship"?