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Champions League revamp

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EFCPaul said:
The European competitions do need a revamp, though this idea is just hideous and downright despicable.

For me the CL should be made up of eight teams, each the respective champion of their league. England, Spain, Italy, Germany, France, new Dutch/Belgian, Russian, final spot going to the EL winner. Each team gets 3 home, 3 away and one neutral game respectively. Then the top 4 play 2nd-legged semis against each other then a final. Only 10 games a season at the most, sorted.

Whilst your at it revamp the EL, rebrand it as the Uefa Cup again and have it be 64 teams as a straight knock out competition, two legs. That would mean 11 games a season at most. Scrap away goals.

The above means more competition, less games to cope with, a real feeling of having earnt your way into prestigious competitons. Scrap the four team group-stages, no one has ever enjoyed them.
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Why should the Russian champions get a spot? That league didn't have a single team in Europe get out of the group stages this season.
 

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I generally like hearing Gary and also Jamie on Sky Sports, I know some on here are not the biggest fans, but they've generally been fair pundits.

Also mostly agree with what Gary has said here, and glad most of the pundits have largely hated on the Super League, I expected them to sit on the fence a bit more, but I think being 'players', even though they are very well off, they still understand the who player/owner dynamic, and this is an immediate reaction to wealthy owners who make decisions as they please.

As someone who's also worked with wealthy owners (though not on the scale of hundreds of billions of dollars), I like to think I know their decision making process, and most of it boils down to money being a game, money being freedom over someone else, money able to make decisions. From an owners point of view, they're going to buy people off to support the Super League, they're always people who'll do things for market price. That's why they're not worried about the back lash, they know people can't stay mad for that long, hungry starving people get mad, not football fans.

The only way for us as a whole to beat this 'Super League' is to stand united, and the 12 owners are betting that we (as a whole) can't do it, that some of us will eventually gravitate to watch Arsenal play Atletico on Wednesday night, and start following it anyway, because people will talk about it.

Can we though? Can we for once in our lives stand together and not watch or talk about the Super League and send these god awful empire building sinister greedy leeches back to the stone age and make them lose every penny they have? We talk about Bezos, Gates, Musk, Buffett, Page, Brin, Rockefeller, Rothschild and all these guys owning more money than the other 99.9% of the people on this planet and then the one chance we have to take all their money, we blow it because we want to watch Spurs v Chelsea midweek.... we deserve it honestly if we can't do it.

If they go - good, ill enjoy the premier league and the new champions league far more - plenty of great teams still left hopefully including PSG, Bayern, Porto, Ajax, Napoli etc. I hope we destroy the super league, and I hope all those clubs lose every penny they have, and only once they've lost their owner, returned the club back to their fans as the rightful owners, are they allowed back into their domestic leagues. Start them in the 5th division and give them a few seasons of -80 point deductions so they literally have to win every game to avoid relegation.
 
Btw I'm not from the UK, so perhaps this is a big deal in terms of this affecting the 'working class' because as an outsider that's what it looks like.

But I can say having lived in two countries - Australia and Malaysia - they may care less about the premier league, and traditions and history. Like literally the way someone in Asia picks a club is to pick one with recent success, like a top 4 club. There's actually been a lot less Arsenal supporters honestly, because it hasn't had that recent success. But most people here are Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea fans. And they don't really give two cahoots about playing Burnley or Stoke.

There's 2.5 billion people in Asia - that's what people in the UK are up against if they're fighting against the Super League. Even if no one in the UK watched the Super League, there'd be billions that watch. Football is huge here, not necessarily because of all the 'history' but because people like big spectacles like a Liverpool v Man United. People don't even care about their own sport in their own country, people just want 'the best'.

Even if these 12 clubs lose in the UK, Spain and Italy where they are from - the audience out there is huge for them. Now that I think about it like this - they really can't lose.
 
Surprised how entertaining I’ve found watching football literally eat itself through its own sickening greed.

Hopefully this could be a huge reset button. The ‘super’ 12 shitehawks get shot down and the rest of the game becomes a little more real-world.

Won’t happen I know but still...
 
It all started when UEFA bent over backwards to change the Champions League rules in 2005 to let Liverpool "defend their title" after they finished in 5th behind us.

That's when the bigger clubs realized that their entitlement could be capitalized on and their brand value weaponized against UEFA.

The Super League talk has been around since then.
 

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