Champions League revamp

[mightymoyes]

That’s why it seems strange to me they announced it before getting all teams onboard

PSG probably turned it down cos they knew Qatar would lose the world cup

 

[Goat]

It's not good at all, but comparatively speaking, the two options are poles apart. One is a closed shop for 15 teams every year and they control the finances. The other provides 4 or 5 spaces for clubs who miss out on normal qualification and domestic league points would still result in qualification for like 32 teams.

One is bad, the other is utterly horrific. That's why there is not equal coverage.

From what I can see only 2 spots are given to "wildcards" based on past performance, the other 3 spaces are given to Champions of lesser leagues.

Its not great that 2 teams get wildcards, but its nothing compared to this.

 

[Frenk]

Of course it will be (the risk) - let's hope they have all misread the mood music & they all get chucked out, but I struggle to see a scenario where it happens in reality

If the premier leagues response is hard, those share prices will tumble.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Keep the 6 of them out of it.

 

[arbok]

 

[tsubaki]

That’s why it seems strange to me they announced it before getting all teams onboard

TBF I think they have got the teams, it’s just they aren’t European ones and are waiting for it to be set up before jumping.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

"Legacy Fan" is disgusting corporate speak taken to it's natural conclusion

It's infecting all walks of life

A small little goal I have is to be important enough at my job that one day I can stop someone for using it and demand they speak normally lol

 

[mightymoyes]

Keep the 6 of them out of it.

they better not fudge on the punishment for the scab 6

 

[ToffeeTim]

From what I can see only 2 spots are given to "wildcards" based on past performance, the other 3 spaces are given to Champions of lesser leagues.

Its not great that 2 teams get wildcards, but its nothing compared to this.

Yeah I agree, I don't like an expanded "Champions" league to 36 teams but I could live with it. The Super League proposal is on a whole different level and completely incomparable to Uefa's.

 

[Big Sams Undies]

Imagine us becoming one of, if not the, biggest genuine club in England through the pure greed of the snidey 6... Classic stuff

 

[jayden28]

Chelsea and city can end this now,both weren't keen on the idea and should do a U-shaped turn

 

[Wat Tyler]

If a team finishes 4th they’re in. Yes it’s protectionist and unfair in favour of elite teams but it’s not denying access to anyone good enough. The super league is.

Yes nowhere near as bad as the Super League but allowing “elite teams in if they haven’t qualified,” is ridiculous and harms the integrity of it.

 

[LostLegend]

Well in that scenario it was the right punishment due to the nature of the scandal.

With the Super League it's very very different in that it's a fundamental mutilation of the game.

I wasn't comparing the nature of the scandal itself, but rather agreeing that a basic 1 tier relegation wouldn't work anyway in the long run.

 

[Martin Alvito]

The group that really has the most leverage to stop this abomination in the long run is the players. These clubs have made a bit of a miscalculation, I think, about the loyalties of these so-called “future fans.”

The fans they mean are the ones like my girlfriend’s brother-in-law, who is a Korean guy that grew up in China. He is an early-30s, FIFA-playing football “fan,” but his fandom is heavily driven by the superstar players. He just follows Ronaldo wherever he goes. He was a Real Madrid “fan,” and now he’s a Juventus “fan.”

But what happens if someone like Ronaldo or other big-name players refuse to play in the Super League (especially with the threat of missing Euros and World Cups)? You think that guy will still pay any attention to Juventus, wherever they’re playing? Of course not. That type of “fan” is so fickle. They have no concern for teams, only players. Almost like pop stars or movie stars. So if those players say no, the “future fans” will be lost anyway.

I would bet that:

1) most players' contracts don't anticipate this eventuality and they're stuck
2) they're counting on the fact that the international sanctions don't matter to players retired from international football, or willing to retire for a payday
3) if kicked out, they're counting on the domestic leagues and international competition to essentially function as 'feeder leagues' where players make their reputations prior to joining up

What they may have missed is that some of the more popular players may read the signals from retired players as indicating that their best 'life after football' move is to refuse to join or get out at the earliest opportunity, and weigh that against the immediate-term money available.

 

[Toffeeslam]

Keep the 6 of them out of it.

let’s hope they don’t bottle it then