Champions League revamp

[Nymzee]

I don't think he will. Guy seems to be on a mission to totally nail all 12 of them...

Watched that last night.

 

[Zatara]

Well it is capitalism - because i see it with my own eyes. The owner literally takes all the profits, and pays the bare minimums to its workers, the workers will forever be in the working class. It's literally not the same as in Australia where there's at least some semblance of socialism, like I can get paid $20 an hour for working at McDonalds. In Malaysia you make $10 a day. Same goes for all over Asia, aside from some of their wealthier nations as I said before like Singapore, Japan, S. Korea, but even there its nowhere near like some European or Australian countries. You might get 700 yen an hour in Japan for working at Family Mart.

Sure some people may still watch the premier league, because some are just premier league fans, but i bet most are fans of either the players or the teams or the wealth represented by these teams, because they can buy the players therefore guaranteeing entertaining games. I agree there's less incentive to win games for the team or the players, but for fans who are watching, it isn't less, its exactly the same incentive, there's still a super league title. How will you all know if Ronaldo doesn't try as hard? Everything will just normalise.

Also I'm mostly talking about the fairweather fans here, I'm sure there's plenty of diehards in Malaysia and Asia who actually care about what happens to the clubs and how it affects the premier league as I do. I'm just saying that basically I see these rich clubs eyeing the sport as a global thing, and there not going to let some criticism from its fans at home stop them from making money. I mean I could be wrong, I'm just giving an opinion here - but they're betting there's more people out there (globally) who want a super league than watching Man U play 28 meaningless games against the other 14 teams in the prem. I hate it, but then if I ask myself - what would a casual fan think they'd have no opinion either way, which is why they're doing this, because there's way more casual fans out there than hardcore fans. It's like an all star game - casual fans like all star games.

To me - its like they're just hi jacking the clubs for their global fanbase. That's all it is with zero respect for everything else.

Ive been in Asia long enough to "see it with my own eyes" as well.

Lets not get side tracked, however take a look at a well known Malaysian headquartered airline. Look at how many of the wealthy have procured their assets and fortune. Its not based on capitalism, its generational wealth based on corruption. Not only in Malaysia of course.

Im not sure comparing Mcdonalds/Family Mart in Malaysia/Japan are good examples. There are cultural differences and monetary differences between lifestyle there and Australia.

Back to the topic in hand where you mention that theres a "super league title to play for" (in name only) and "less incentive to win games"...

...this is EXACTLY the same as the summer friendly tournaments held in Asia and US every summer pre covid.

Take a look at the global viewing figures.

You lost me about 14 teams and 28 games...

"Casual/new fans" tend to be part of a group who talk about games together and see it as a social conversation topic.

That wouldnt exist on the same level and so the interest wouldnt be there.

Take away the international games for players and Beckham would NEVER have had such a global following...nor would Ferdinand. Two players who were massively popular to the majority of Asian fans.

Imagine Richarlison or Son saying they will play in the super league and miss internationals.

Never happening.

Growing speculation US banks & clubs driving this. Changes are needed but SuperLeague idea is not it. I also do not believe Laporta can include Barca without it being voted on by club members

What is thoughts of the Barcelona fans over this?

I believe the members need to vote.

However, Barca are an interesting one as they (as well as others from their region) do not consider themselves Spanish.

Madrid are Madrid...but Atletico im appalled by. I wondew their fans have reacted...

 

[bluebud]

He's barely off the back of the converted Land Rover and now this.

 

[GETEM]

 

[Alan Whittle]

Throw the book

Pah!
KILL THEM WITH FIRE!

 

[Lee Smith]

He is a third-dan black belt in Shotokan Karate. He is also a motorsport aficionado and has crossed the Sahara Desert five times, four by car and once by motorcycle.[35]

As a teenager Čeferin served in the Yugoslav People's Army in 1986 and later served as a Slovenian soldier in the war for Slovenian independence in 1991


Hes gonna do somebody some serious harm.

Sounds like the sort of man who would gouge your eyes out without even bothering to put gloves on first. Probably knows a whole load of “people” too. Someone’s deffo getting it lol

 

[Drico]

Bayern sound committed

I said it earlier: watch Rummenigge. I said he would be the one to broker a "compromise". Thing is, he is as ruthless in the board room as he was in the penalty box. It's almost like he has executed a reverse takeover of UEFA.

 

[JMT]

the deepest cut of them all...not being to play yourself on Fifa...

 

[tommye]

 

[DanB90]

I doubt a single poster in here wouldn't want the roles to be swapped with them lot over the park given the chance. Let's be honest about it. Football is dead.

All Liverpool fans I know (local) are absolutely ashamed of their club over being involved in this. And we know all about how little shame they have over literally anything else.

 

[Blue 1]

One of the many reasons I'm glad I don't work in an office any more. The corporate psychobabble used to drive me mental.

I even drew up a 'Corporate Buzzword Generator' on my computer that had 3 columns with 10 words in each. You rolled a dice 3 times and it created a buzzword/phrase and you'd have to try and drop it into the next team meeting.

"So, any news on how our 'Community Focus Project' is coming along, Dave?"

Instead of going for a [Poor language removed] it's "an Armitage Shanks defecation interface scenario"*.

*With thanks to "The Day Today"

 

[Jamiednm]

Super interesting comments from Wayne. Reading between the lines, it seems like Prem still want the top 6 clubs back playing the domestic league, but they'll let them go play their silly mid week competition. Seems like as long as the other 14 clubs or the rest of the english football pyramid get a good deal, they'll have them back... that sounds like the actual end game here, because prem stands to lose a ton of money if the top 6 aren't in it.

pretty disgusted honestly.

it'll be the champions league that suffers, because now they don't have these 12 clubs in it (for at least 23 years).

No way, the Premier League will suffer massively by having a clear formalised two-tier membership. It will rip any semblance of sporting integrity out of the competition. What's the point of being in the same league as other teams who have permanent, gated access to funds and exposure that the other teams simply have absolutely no way of getting access to?

If we're being completely fair, those ESL clubs should be given a -30 point handicap at the start of every domestic season because all the non-ESL clubs will have a permanent, fixed-in sporting handicap.

 

[JammyP]

 

[navidson]

We've finally found a punishment that will really hurt these clubs

 

[PaddyJames]

No, I really dont.

Watch your mouth when you address me by the way boy.

Yes you do.

Brain Glover over here