Champions League revamp

[Blueclouds]

UEFA have played a sneaky blinder here, sneaked the new CL proposals in while everyone is in uproar over the ESL

Yeah this has annoyed me the most. Sneaky and planned. Hmmm

 

[trueblue84]

Chelsea’s Thomas Tuchel insists club owners ‘have passion for football’

Thomas Tuchel has defended the motives of Chelsea and the other five Premier League clubs that hoped to create the European Super League

www.theguardian.com

Tuchel is an absolute weasel

He doesn't have a long term contract yet so is sucking abramovic off at every opportunity in the hope he gets the job.

He does look like he sells his arse for heroin, though.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Chelsea’s Thomas Tuchel insists club owners ‘have passion for football’

Thomas Tuchel has defended the motives of Chelsea and the other five Premier League clubs that hoped to create the European Super League

www.theguardian.com

Tuchel is an absolute weasel

At least he's being barefaced about his intentions. He's an utter mercenary and doesn't care who knows it.

Meanwhile the likes of Klopp want to have their cake and eat it too. Wringing his hands in the desperately craven way that you'd expect from someone associated with that club. Happy to take the money and carry on as usual all the while demanding sympathy and trying to play the victim card.

 

[APN_EFC]

This is exactly what Simon Jordan was saying on TS. Basically this was the "opening salvo", these clubs have tried to push through the most metal of plans which is the most beneficial to them, everyone was always going to be disgusted by it, so now they'll water it down to something more palpable and try again in the near future. In the hope that some fans will say "well, it's not AS bad as before....."

Classic move -
here's three choices (pick the middle one)
they're going to give us the 2 extremes first and then we'll 'settle'

I am not talking about the fans and staff of each club - who were not consulted obviously - but I don't have much sympathy for the backtracking moves last night, nor the defensive we are the victims attitude from klopp. Henderson is a hero for the players? Come on!

 

[Old Blue 2]

In later posts, on this thread, you had a far less dismissive tone to other posters. You've conceded it's not as clear cut as you initially made it out to be to me. And it isn't clear cut. Far from it.

I have conceded that there could be a massive legal bun-fight. To your post, which has subsequently generated our exchange, I simply set out the moot points, in my view, that such legal arguments would be based around.

 

[OneTrueLegend]

In a statement, the European Super League said: "Given the current circumstances we shall reconsider the most appropriate steps to reshape the project, always having in mind our goals of offering fans the best experience possible while enhancing solidarity payments for the entire football community."

lol lol lol

That to me says it will be repackaged and we will see this again. I have said before that if this was proposed as a competition that everyone had to qualify for through their domestic league, there would have been much less opposition to it from the Premier league and football league.

I could see this back as a competition with 32 teams;

6 premier league
3 spanish
3 italian
3 french
3 german
2 belgian
2 dutch
2 scottish
2 portugeuse
2 turkish
2 greek
1 austrian
1 swiss

32 teams, no qualification rounds, 4 groups of 8 teams play each other twice, top 4 from each group go into last 16 of the main competition, bottom 4 from each group go in a secondary competition.

The opposition to this would come from the other nations not included, but they can have their own competition

 

[Martin Alvito]

hahahahahahha

I probably shouldn't be surprised that this is stunningly tone deaf. But somehow, I am.

My response would basically be, "For God's sake, John, you hired the best lawyers money could buy and listened to them. Don't you have any PR people on your staff of similar quality? If not, you have billions, right? Find them, shut up and listen, and say what they tell you to say!"

(above probably best read in DeForest Kelley's voice)

He's got 1/20 of a voice in a room of these, and he needs to make sure enough commotion is made to make sure these clubs are punished, and I know he isn't the only one who will agree. For too long, we have bent over backwards to accomodate these greedy, self-centred, egotistical clubs.

I'm sure that he stands with Moshiri on this. The problem is that the decisive vote is going to be someone like Mike Ashley, unless the rest can come up with some procedural move that essentially prevents the guilty parties from serving on the jury in their own trial.

That puts the next move in the hands of the supporters, who would have to convince Ashley and his ilk that inaction will cost him more money than swinging the axe at the rebels.

 

[trueblue84]

This is exactly what Simon Jordan was saying on TS. Basically this was the "opening salvo", these clubs have tried to push through the most metal of plans which is the most beneficial to them, everyone was always going to be disgusted by it, so now they'll water it down to something more palpable and try again in the near future. In the hope that some fans will say "well, it's not AS bad as before....."

You mean like the new champions League format that uefa are putting in place?

 

[daza_1973]

Totally predictable, but all media outlets seem to immediately jumping back in bed with these now - clamouring for their clicks and future subscriptions.
Commence operation whitewash.

 

[sbbefc]

I have conceded that there could be a massive legal bun-fight. To your post, which has subsequently generated our exchange, I simply set out the moot points, in my view, that such legal arguments would be based around.

Let's leave it at that. All blues at the end of the day. And I hope you are right.

 

[Old Blue 2]

Let's leave it at that. All blues at the end of the day. And I hope you are right.

I think we both feel that the 'scab 6' will get off far too lightly...

 

[Eggs]

 

[Brisan123]

My second team if I had to say I had one.. Parish done them proud.. him and Mosh can lead the resistance !

Yeh just blows my mind. Imagine going absolutely mental on a credit card and never really having to pay it all back.

Have you met my wife during the January sales

 

[Papa Shango]

Still not a peep in recent days from ‘King Kenny’. Contrast with Sir Alex and his respectful reference to our club.

To be fair he did post about it but it was quite vague saying something like he hopes the club does the right thing and the fans need to be listened to etc etc.

All very bland.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Good stuff from Parish.

Bang on the money