Christian Eriksen alive

[wandyr79]

Think about this garbage nations league and how much football players have played since WC 2018

Clubs and National sides, at this level, will have access to the best doctors, physios, etc.

Things can be missed but for a player to have this happen because of exhaustion would have to have some truly inept medical people involved. So much fitness areas will be tested on these players, if there was any doubt at all then they will be rested.

If he had just passed out, then fair enough but to have to have CPR on the pitch is an indication of much more than playing more games than your body can take.

 

[emir]

One thing that makes me extremely angry is that when amazing humans do amazing things with amazing skill that were devised by other amazing humans, that somebody has to jump in and completely ignore their work.

What these people did was unbelievable and the only thing we should be thankful for are the people that saved his life. If God stopped his heart to test him or the people round him then he/she is a massive prick. Why would he/she do that to an obviously nice guy unless he/she was a prick.

Anyway, so glad that it sounds like he is OK,

So you have never used the phrase "Thank god" ever in your life? Does it get you angry when somebody uses that phrase?

 

[Sassy Colombian]

To be fair, I doubt exhaustion caused what happened to Eriksen. He played 26 games for Inter and on the site I looked at, it had him down as only playing the equivalent of 15.4 complete 90 minute games.

You are, of course, right that this past 18 months have been tough on footballers bodies but I would be surprised if there was any indication that the amount of football played is the cause here, if the above is correct.

I wasn’t trying to claiming that what happened to him was the cause of fatigue. My comment was simply to say that footballers have been under a lot of pressure to perform non stop (specially during these Covid times) and at some point it is going to cause health issues for some of them. Fatigue being a side effect but sudden cardiac arrest begin a main health condition that’s too common among football players that’s not being discussed enough. And continuing pushing footballers to perform like machines at such high levels can’t be good for their health or their heart. Below are the results of a paper regarding SCD that confirms study after study report soccer as the most common sport associated with SCD.

“sudden cardiac death (SCD) in athletes has been brought to public attention in recent decades. The incidence of SCD has been reported to be approximately 1-2 per 100,000 person-years, with a 2.5 times higher risk in athletes when compared with non athletes. Soccer is the most popular sport in the world, played by people of all ages. However, unfortunately it is cardiovascular diseases such as hypertrophic cardiomyopathy and arrhythmogenic right ventricular cardiomyopathy that have subtly missed screening and claimed the lives of soccer stars such as Marc Vivien Foe and Antonio Puerta during live action on the field and on an internationally televised stage.

Studies conducted by filming soccer players found that distances covered at the top level during a 90-minute game are about 10–12 km for players on the field and 4 km for the goalkeeper. During a soccer match, sprinting occurs approximately every 90 seconds and lasts 2–4 seconds. The game is dynamic considering that in addition to running, there is also twisting of the torso to change direction, heading, tackling, and holding the ball against defensive pressure. Energy production while playing soccer is mainly dependent on aerobic metabolism; however, the work intensity can approach the anaerobic threshold, which is defined as the highest exercise intensity where the production and removal of lactate are equal (usually at 80–90% of maximum heart rate).

The studies below show that in Italy and much of the rest of the world, the sport in which SCD occurs most often is soccer.

 

[wandyr79]

So you have never used the phrase "Thank god" ever in your life? Does it get you angry when somebody uses that phrase?

Nope, I have used that phrase before, I have sang God save the queen before as well. That particular phrase doesn't anger me with no context. Thank god, as a basic phrase has no true meaning, I think it is just a basic phrase to use on a given situation to describe thanking something. It is a reflexive saying that has become common behaviour.

In this context you said god is the greatest. God, if he/she exists (and he/she definitely does not) is definitely not the greatest, if they stop somebody's heart just to start it up again then they are egotistical pricks. It is most definitely not a sign of greatness it is a sign that somebody is desperately wants attention and they put other people in danger to do it, not to mention the heartache caused to the loved ones of the person they are inflicting this pain on.

The one phrase that does really get me in every case is 'Everything happens for a reason'. That is the biggest cop out of all religious people.

We are all just extremely glad that Eriksen is alive and seemingly well, we should all be thinking of his family and friends, of the players, officials, medical staff who had to endure that nightmare situation yet you feel it is OK to simply come in here and think of a supernatural being and say he/she is the greatest, for putting them through all of that.

 

[wandyr79]

I wasn’t trying to claiming that what happened to him was the cause of fatigue. My comment was simply to say that footballers have been under a lot of pressure to perform non stop (specially during these Covid times) and at some point it is going to cause health issues for some of them. Fatigue being a side effect but sudden cardiac arrest begin a main health condition that’s too common among football players that’s not being discussed enough. And continuing pushing footballers to perform like machines at such high levels can’t be good for their health or their heart. Below are the results of a paper regarding SCD that confirms study after study report soccer as the most common sport associated with SCD.

“sudden cardiac death (SCD) in athletes has been brought to public attention in recent decades. The incidence of SCD has been reported to be approximately 1-2 per 100,000 person-years, with a 2.5 times higher risk in athletes when compared with non athletes. Soccer is the most popular sport in the world, played by people of all ages. However, unfortunately it is cardiovascular diseases such as hypertrophic cardiomyopathy and arrhythmogenic right ventricular cardiomyopathy that have subtly missed screening and claimed the lives of soccer stars such as Marc Vivien Foe and Antonio Puerta during live action on the field and on an internationally televised stage.

Studies conducted by filming soccer players found that distances covered at the top level during a 90-minute game are about 10–12 km for players on the field and 4 km for the goalkeeper. During a soccer match, sprinting occurs approximately every 90 seconds and lasts 2–4 seconds. The game is dynamic considering that in addition to running, there is also twisting of the torso to change direction, heading, tackling, and holding the ball against defensive pressure. Energy production while playing soccer is mainly dependent on aerobic metabolism; however, the work intensity can approach the anaerobic threshold, which is defined as the highest exercise intensity where the production and removal of lactate are equal (usually at 80–90% of maximum heart rate).

The studies below show that in Italy and much of the rest of the world, the sport in which SCD occurs most often is soccer.

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No offence was meant to you, if you took it that way and I am in no way intelligent enough to really know or understand these things.

I suppose my point, if had one at 1am, was that people do jump to the blame game and I jumped to the conclusion that this was a blame game on authorities for too much football.

You definitely have a point and I have no doubt that studies prove it conclusively. Hopefully, what occured to Eriksen was not something that will cause severe health problems in the future. The fact that they mention how quickly the defib worked certainly is a good sign.

 

[AmericasToffee]

No offence was meant to you, if you took it that way and I am in no way intelligent enough to really know or understand these things.

I suppose my point, if had one at 1am, was that people do jump to the blame game and I jumped to the conclusion that this was a blame game on authorities for too much football.

You definitely have a point and I have no doubt that studies prove it conclusively. Hopefully, what occured to Eriksen was not something that will cause severe health problems in the future. The fact that they mention how quickly the defib worked certainly is a good sign.

Him getting oxygen pumping again that quickly was a great thing for his long term health

 

[TN Toffee]

Think about this garbage nations league and how much football players have played since WC 2018

And there’s going to be no let up anytime soon. The domestic season starts again in two months, there’s still almost all of WC 2022 qualifying to shoehorn in, the actual WC to play next winter, which probably means an early start and late finish to the 22-23 season. A quick turnaround after that into the following season and then Euro 2024. The European internationals are legitimately looking at 2025 before they get any kind of real break.

 

[Sassy Colombian]

No offence was meant to you, if you took it that way and I am in no way intelligent enough to really know or understand these things.

I suppose my point, if had one at 1am, was that people do jump to the blame game and I jumped to the conclusion that this was a blame game on authorities for too much football.

You definitely have a point and I have no doubt that studies prove it conclusively. Hopefully, what occured to Eriksen was not something that will cause severe health problems in the future. The fact that they mention how quickly the defib worked certainly is a good sign.

I didn’t take it as an offense at all, mate. I just wanted to clarify that I didn’t think it was exhaustion either but that fatigue could lead to bad things if football bodies continue making decisions to enrich their coffins over the well being of footballers or the communities they play at. Clear example is exactly what’s happening in South America at the moment with Copa America where Conmebol decided to pushed for the tournament to be played even though the region is currently experiencing a huge spike in Covid cases. Just yesterday 13 players and coaching staff from Venezuela were diagnosed with covid and today the National Team had to play a huge tournament against Brazil with players that had been flown just yesterday and had not even had a practice with the main team until this morning. This sort of decisions just makes no sense and pushing footballers to the edge doesn’t either.

I sure hope the quick efforts by the medical staff made a difference for Eriksen and his long term health. His wife, young kids and family deserve to have him in their lives for a lot longer.

 

[TN Toffee]

I didn’t take it as an offense at all, mate. I just wanted to clarify that I didn’t think it was exhaustion either but that fatigue could lead to bad things if football bodies continue making decisions to enrich their coffins over the well being of footballers or the communities they play at. Clear example is exactly what’s happening in South America at the moment with Copa America where Conmebol decided to pushed for the tournament to be played even though the region is currently experiencing a huge spike in Covid cases. Just yesterday 13 players and coaching staff from Venezuela were diagnosed with covid and today the National Team had to play a huge tournament against Brazil with players that had been flown just yesterday and had not even had a practice with the main team until this morning. This sort of decisions just makes no sense and pushing footballers to the edge doesn’t either.

I sure hope the quick efforts by the medical staff made a difference for Eriksen and his long term health. His wife, young kids and family deserve to have him in their lives for a lot longer.

Did whatever you typed this out on actually autocorrect “coffers” to “coffins”? Given the context of this thread, that’s one for the record books. I sure hope the governing bodies aren’t making decisions to enrich any coffins. lol

 

[Sassy Colombian]

Did whatever you typed this out on actually autocorrect “coffers” to “coffins”? Given the context of this thread, that’s one for the record books. I sure hope the governing bodies aren’t making decisions to enrich any coffins. lol

Haha, I meant coffers but with all the deaths that continue happening in South America at the moment it seems coffins is what my subconscious had in mind lol

 

[Lineker]

So, came in here looking for a Peter Frampton reference, and am now posting disappointedly if thst is a word.

First, if you want to retort angrily, dismissively, or mockingly toward someone's religious beliefs, that makes you exactly as bad as what most criticisms of religion state is the problem with religion. Leave it be.

Second, people that are so upset about this need to grow up. Obviously I don't wish him ill, but thousands of strangers to you die every day and every single one of them is a tragedy. He is just as much of a stranger to you. Apologies if he does, in fact, exchange Christmas cards with you.

Seeing someone potentially die on television is not pretty, but seriously grow a pair and take it with some degree of maturity and without the hyperbole.

 

[kenada_blue]

Be interesting when they find the cause of his heart attack.

There has been warnings involved in the over use of caffeine in modern sport now. There was a report using the RS as an example of their caffeine intact pushing them to a certain limit that could possibly put too much strain on the heart.

Why Liverpool won’t win the Premier League this season

Alan Moore discusses the reasons why he believes that Liverpool will not retain their Premier League title this coming season.

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[wandyr79]

So, came in here looking for a Peter Frampton reference, and am now posting disappointedly if thst is a word.

First, if you want to retort angrily, dismissively, or mockingly toward someone's religious beliefs, that makes you exactly as bad as what most criticisms of religion state is the problem with religion. Leave it be.

Second, people that are so upset about this need to grow up. Obviously I don't wish him ill, but thousands of strangers to you die every day and every single one of them is a tragedy. He is just as much of a stranger to you. Apologies if he does, in fact, exchange Christmas cards with you.

Seeing someone potentially die on television is not pretty, but seriously grow a pair and take it with some degree of maturity and without the hyperbole.

I was probably the most angry and I do apologise for using this thread to go on my usual Atheists' rant. I should try to learn to let it go in certain situations, it just gets me so wound up, the language that they use, most of it simply annoys me but when life and death is involved, and they start up with the fact that god is great, it gets me right in the pit of the stomach.

On the second point, harsh

 

[Papa Shango]

So you have never used the phrase "Thank god" ever in your life? Does it get you angry when somebody uses that phrase?

Saying thank God is a nice way of saying "Thank F***" these days. It is not supposed to be taken literally in the same way that if I say "Damn It" it doesn't mean that I want something to burn in hell for eternity.

 

[ArtetaMoney]

Was scary stuff, that. Just glad he’s ok.

These situations are rare, but the reactions from the medical staff prove that they are trained for such instances, based on learning from previous ones.

Hopefully, once they receive the data back from what happens to Eriksen, more information will be available as to what more they could do in future, to prevent or react to this happening again.