Commercial Airliners

[jal123]

Ground incidents are a different matter, and some places (like Chicago Midway) are really difficult to get around if you're not familiar. Too many intersections and places to make a mistake, with little room for error.

Basically from the ground, it all looks like this:

Except that sometimes it's more like this, and you've got to know whether that's a runway or taxiway ahead of you:

@ItsOKImAPilot

 

[LinekersLegs]

The pilot had to intentionally side-slip the plane so he could see the runway out of the side window!

 

[arch stanton]

The pilot had to intentionally side-slip the plane so he could see the runway out of the side window!

I thought he'd just use instruments, shows why I'm no pilot

 

[Seamus Colemole]

I thought he'd just use instruments, shows why I'm no pilot

I don't think playing a guitar would help you land a plane mate.

 

[SerenityNigh]

The pilot had to intentionally side-slip the plane so he could see the runway out of the side window!

Nice landing and good use of a technical term LL

 

[LinekersLegs]

Nice landing and good use of a technical term LL

I'd never heard the term before today but was fascinated with how the pilot had managed to see enough to land and went down a bit of a wikipedia rabbit hole finding out lol

 

[Dylan]

Nice landing and good use of a technical term LL

I'd never heard the term before today but was fascinated with how the pilot had managed to see enough to land and went down a bit of a wikipedia rabbit hole finding out lol

In the Navy, we called it 'crabbing'. But I am not sure that was a fully technical term, but it is exactly the same thing.....

 

[SerenityNigh]

In the Navy, we called it 'crabbing'. But I am not sure that was a fully technical term, but it is exactly the same thing.....

Yes, crabbing is the more or less the same. Technically crabbing is flying a different heading but tracking the runway with no slip and sidesllip means flying and tracking runway heading at the same time. You can see both in the xwind landings video earlier in the thread. Each type has its own issues and some are preferred for specific aircraft. I'm not sure which this pilot used, but it was a good landing nonetheless.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Yes, crabbing is the more or less the same. Technically crabbing is flying a different heading but tracking the runway with no slip and sidesllip means flying and tracking runway heading at the same time. You can see both in the xwind landings video earlier in the thread. Each type has its own issues and some are preferred for specific aircraft. I'm not sure which this pilot used, but it was a good landing nonetheless.

Would the size of the plane make a difference eg the larger the plane the more difficult the maneuver as less responsive?

 

[SerenityNigh]

Would the size of the plane make a difference eg the larger the plane the more difficult the maneuver as less responsive?

I don't think necessarily so, but they do have limitations. Most large airplanes don't side slip either because of the risk of pod or tip strike on the upwind wing. Most smaller airplanes don't crab because they can't handle the side load stress to the landing gear. The B-52 is specifically designed to crab and has a dial to adjust main gear direction when landing.

 

[SerenityNigh]

A crab landing will always have to readjust to runway heading at touchdown

 

[SerenityNigh]

Except the B52, which will adjust the wheels to match the runway heading

 

[Dylan]

Yes, crabbing is the more or less the same. Technically crabbing is flying a different heading but tracking the runway with no slip and sidesllip means flying and tracking runway heading at the same time. You can see both in the xwind landings video earlier in the thread. Each type has its own issues and some are preferred for specific aircraft. I'm not sure which this pilot used, but it was a good landing nonetheless.

I don't think necessarily so, but they do have limitations. Most large airplanes don't side slip either because of the risk of pod or tip strike on the upwind wing. Most smaller airplanes don't crab because they can't handle the side load stress to the landing gear. The B-52 is specifically designed to crab and has a dial to adjust main gear direction when landing.

Except the B52, which will adjust the wheels to match the runway heading

Huh.....TIL!!!

 

[SerenityNigh]

In the Navy, we called it 'crabbing'. But I am not sure that was a fully technical term, but it is exactly the same thing.....

Now that I'm thinking about this again, Dylan is perfectly correct (even if unintentionally) because a true sideslip keeps your heading matched to runway heading and controls drift with the upwind wing (turned down, into the crosswind).

All that to say it's hard to see down the runway through the side window when side slipping.

 

[LinekersLegs]

A crab landing will always have to readjust to runway heading at touchdown

Sitting in a right hand window seat whilst that landed would have been fun lol