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Conspiracy theories
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I wish the aliens would come along and abduct certain posters.
I imagine at first contact, if your first words were "do you want to hear some conspiracy theories?" they'd put you back
I imagine if they read some of the dross that’s been posted on GOT over the past few days they would scurry back off as quick as possible. That or…
You know it’s pre-season when they all come out of the woodwork.
dholliday
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So you've got no hypothesis.
Critiquing other views is easy if you're not offering any coherent counter-view.
I don't think you've read any of my posts then.
Try a search for "risk" by "dholliday" in "this thread".
Why would you imagine that, when all the links i've offered have been official government info?
The video I linked has nothing to do with Rogan, and pre-dates his podcats making mention of it.
How is any of this relevant? Who mentioned Rogan or a cold?
The article i linked, which was all about the point i was making, is that there was no increase in heat-deaths from previous years, in fact there was a relative decrease. It's a very simple data-set to understand:
Benchmark is A.
Period B had 14% increase over A.
Period C had 2% increase over A.
Did C increase over B?
No...of course not. Period C had reduced deaths in comparison to B. The very headline lead with this: Heat-Related Deaths Drop.
How on Earth you still insist the opposite is true is incredible.
Feels like I'm explaining basic maths to a child. It's like you see the word "rise" or "increase" and can't fathom what else it might mean.
You're a scientist? Ok mate.
That's what i've been doing the whole time.
Maybe take your own advice
Do you have any evidence for this claim?
Ergo, when the method for verifying side-effects is so complex, time-consuming and logistically/technically-unfeasible that Doctors are officially directed to inform their patients to self-report, then your conclusion is such reports aren't worth considering.
Scientist, yeah? lol
Where are you seeing this opposite? I will check it out.
Try the Mass Psychosis theory. You'll either get knowing nods of agreement or offended hysteria.
Won't be boring, at least.
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dholliday
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Here's a meaty conspiracy-theory for ya:
WEF has placed its people into positions of power all over the world, with the the aim to effectively rule it, and own it, centrally. The fabled New World Order.
Here's a beginner's guide:
1) in best Bond-villain accent: "ve vill penetrate ze Cabinets"...the baddie has to tell us what he's planning. It's the rules.
2) one such Cabinet headed by this woman (much-admired by the Left):
www.weforum.org
3) who says stuff like this:
4) which recalls a chilling quote from everyone's favourite dystopian fiction:
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
5) The proles will own nothing and have no privacy:
6) including the farmers, by way of regulations authorised by penetrated Cabinets. They will be forced by sheer poverty to sell their lands to WEF-controlled mega-entities:
torontosun.com
www.forbes.com
Bill Gates - official Agenda Contributor - WEF.
As conspiracy theories go, it's not even that outlandish. If anything, it's worryingly realistic....to the point where i imagine some on here will even welcome them as overlords, or at least see this move as benevolent.
The Rabbit Hole offers many WEF-links to key positions in the media, and particularly pro-active roles in the various global crises going on these days.
WEF has placed its people into positions of power all over the world, with the the aim to effectively rule it, and own it, centrally. The fabled New World Order.
Here's a beginner's guide:
1) in best Bond-villain accent: "ve vill penetrate ze Cabinets"...the baddie has to tell us what he's planning. It's the rules.
2) one such Cabinet headed by this woman (much-admired by the Left):
Jacinda Ardern
Bachelor’s in Professional Communication, University of Waikato. Former Adviser, Office of then New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark; then worked in London for the British Cabinet Office. Also volunteered at a soup kitchen in New York. 2008, entered New Zealand’s Parliament at the age of 26...
www.weforum.org
3) who says stuff like this:
4) which recalls a chilling quote from everyone's favourite dystopian fiction:
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
5) The proles will own nothing and have no privacy:
6) including the farmers, by way of regulations authorised by penetrated Cabinets. They will be forced by sheer poverty to sell their lands to WEF-controlled mega-entities:
Trudeau pushes ahead on fertilizer reduction as provinces and farmers cry foul
Government plans to reduce fertilizer use have resulted in protests in the Netherlands and a government overthrow in Sri Lanka.
America’s Biggest Owner Of Farmland Is Now Bill Gates
The Microsoft billionaire has been quietly building a 242,000-acre portfolio of agricultural land across 18 states.
www.forbes.com
Bill Gates - official Agenda Contributor - WEF.
As conspiracy theories go, it's not even that outlandish. If anything, it's worryingly realistic....to the point where i imagine some on here will even welcome them as overlords, or at least see this move as benevolent.
The Rabbit Hole offers many WEF-links to key positions in the media, and particularly pro-active roles in the various global crises going on these days.
1.
The article i linked, which was all about the point i was making, is that there was no increase in heat-deaths from previous years, in fact there was a relative decrease. It's a very simple data-set to understand:
Benchmark is A.
Period B had 14% increase over A.
Period C had 2% increase over A.
Did C increase over B?
No...of course not. Period C had reduced deaths in comparison to B. The very headline lead with this: Heat-Related Deaths Drop.
How on Earth you still insist the opposite is true is incredible.
Feels like I'm explaining basic maths to a child. It's like you see the word "rise" or "increase" and can't fathom what else it might mean.
2.
You're a scientist? Ok mate.
3.
That's what i've been doing the whole time.
Maybe take your own advice
4.
Do you have any evidence for this claim?
Ergo, when the method for verifying side-effects is so complex, time-consuming and logistically/technically-unfeasible that Doctors are officially directed to inform their patients to self-report, then your conclusion is such reports aren't worth considering.
5.
Scientist, yeah? lol
6.
Where are you seeing this opposite? I will check it out.
First up though, how do you do that multi quote thing? My response is going to be a bit messy without it, but I have numbered your points so here goes.
1. You were discussing C against B. I was discussing C against A. As I mentioned before, you were too blinded by your need to be right to take a step back and consider the data that was being presented.
2. Yes
3. Yeah, nah. See point 1.
4. Yes, but your hypothesis is wrong so I won't address that.
5. Yes, you already asked that
6. GOT, ABC, social media, PerthNow, West Australian, verbal discussions. Plenty of places. By the way, I wasn't making that point as a criticism, more identifying that I tend not to go near websites that I think are dominated by conspiracy theorists or anti vaxxers.
Here's a meaty conspiracy-theory for ya:
WEF has placed its people into positions of power all over the world, with the the aim to effectively rule it, and own it, centrally. The fabled New World Order.
Here's a beginner's guide:
1) in best Bond-villain accent: "ve vill penetrate ze Cabinets"...the baddie has to tell us what he's planning. It's the rules.
2) one such Cabinet headed by this woman (much-admired by the Left):
Jacinda Ardern
Bachelor’s in Professional Communication, University of Waikato. Former Adviser, Office of then New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark; then worked in London for the British Cabinet Office. Also volunteered at a soup kitchen in New York. 2008, entered New Zealand’s Parliament at the age of 26...
3) who says stuff like this:
4) which recalls a chilling quote from everyone's favourite dystopian fiction:
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
5) The proles will own nothing and have no privacy:
6) including the farmers, by way of regulations authorised by penetrated Cabinets. They will be forced by sheer poverty to sell their lands to WEF-controlled mega-entities:
Trudeau pushes ahead on fertilizer reduction as provinces and farmers cry foul
Government plans to reduce fertilizer use have resulted in protests in the Netherlands and a government overthrow in Sri Lanka.
America’s Biggest Owner Of Farmland Is Now Bill Gates
The Microsoft billionaire has been quietly building a 242,000-acre portfolio of agricultural land across 18 states.
Bill Gates - official Agenda Contributor - WEF.
As conspiracy theories go, it's not even that outlandish. If anything, it's worryingly realistic....to the point where i imagine some on here will even welcome them as overlords, or at least see this move as benevolent.
The Rabbit Hole offers many WEF-links to key positions in the media, and particularly pro-active roles in the various global crises going on these days.
I think I know the answer to number 3. Is it "politicians that are responsible for saving the lives of those they are elected to represent in response to the widespread online hoaxes and made up bullsh1t that conspiracy theorists spread about Covid and the Covid vaccine, which for some strange reason some people blindly believed and then went searching for more and more obscure youtube videos which supported their biased vision and told everyone else to do the same by shouting 'do your research' while just blindly believing everything some random nutter posts on youtube"?
Am I close?
I know hundreds of people who got the vaccine, including myself and the missus, and not one of them experienced any negative side effects apart from some drowsiness on the first day. I literally know nobody who has reported adverse after-effects.
To all the anti-vax dorks that post here, if everyone does start dropping dead from the vaccine, me and my anomalous circle of immune super-people will fight tooth and nail to take the world back from the evil scientists
To all the anti-vax dorks that post here, if everyone does start dropping dead from the vaccine, me and my anomalous circle of immune super-people will fight tooth and nail to take the world back from the evil scientists
Not even tempted to "show ignored content" tbh, the responses alone suggest it is a dork of unimaginable proportions
Ok, I’ve explained this already, but one more time, with an example. The problem isn’t a hypothesis, the problem is you’re drawing a conclusion from data, which isn’t sufficient to do so.
You are claiming that the self reporting tool is sufficient to conclude a link between a reported side effect being caused by the vaccine. Indeed you said that German gov had admitted that serious side effects were being caused by the vaccine at a specific rate. They didn’t. They simply articulated the rate of report per dose. This doesn’t tell us anything useful, in isolation.
You cannot derive a side effect rate from this data. Here what the UKs Yellow Card system says (the German system says something the same, as does the US VAERS).
My hypothesis. Vaccines cause hiccups. Let’s check the Yellow Card system for reported instances.
There’s been 37 reports of hiccups following the Pfizer vaccine. c60m doses of Pfizer given, in the UK. Therefore I conclude the vaccine causes hiccups at a rate of 1 in 1.6m doses.
This conclusion doesn’t follow, as “the yellow card system cannot be used to derive side effect rates”.
To get nearer a conclusion, I’d need to compare this rate against the background rate of normally occurring hiccups in a non vaccinated population, control for age, ethnicity, pre existing conditions, check the temporal position of side effect versus dose administration. Use this data to establish if the reported rate is statistically significantly different than what you would expect in the non vaccinated populated. Then propose a biological mechanism which could plausibly account for the effect.
This is literally how the self reporting systems work, and how the people who actually do serious work in this field identified actual increased risk of side effects relating to Thrombosis, myocarditis and so on. They worked this stuff out pretty quickly, and took appropriate measures to mitigate - changed the age profile for certain vaccines etc. this is how the system should work.
The self reporting systems can only identify a potential signal within a noisy dataset, then the actual work has to be done.
They cannot be used to derive side effect rates which is a) what you said the German gov had admitted, b) what I said this data cannot be used for.
trueblue84
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I'm still waiting for them to rationalise their belief that the vaccine is to kill us all off. Surely, the government would want us to survive, as we are the "sheep" who have blindly followed them? The anti-vaxers are the ones the government would want to get rid of, so it makes more sense that the vaccination is real in their world as well.
Bit cold out, so popped in to get warmed up courtesey of the hot air being generated in here.
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