Haha you know what I mean though. Clubs with a bit of history that sometimes got into Europe but were mostly mid table in the PL.
I think living in the City it's a lot harder because all the younger fans will have loads of rs mates who just rub it in on a daily basis. So from a local point of view it would be huge just to get that first trophy done and dusted to pipe that lot down about our lack of success.
There's not a day that goes by where my lad doesn't come home and say some rs has taken the piss over something