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Cycling thread

Wat Tyler said:
Pogacar is a generational talent, it’s not like he’s some no mark who’s come from nowhere like Bjarne Riis or something. As Hinault said the other day, he won Tour dr l’Avenir as a teenager, he podiumed Vuelta in his first GT.
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Nobody said he's a no mark. But he gained 10 percent since last year, he won everything since march and the giro.
And he's still not dipping in his fitness. Supremely dominant, any time, anywhere.

Never seen anything like it.
 

Wat Tyler said:
Pogacar is a generational talent, it’s not like he’s some no mark who’s come from nowhere like Bjarne Riis or something. As Hinault said the other day, he won Tour dr l’Avenir as a teenager, he podiumed Vuelta in his first GT.
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It's a bit beyond generational I think. That's the key to it, we've been here faced with the best there's ever been before (some are still banging drums about Indurain) and we've all been let down eventually.

Winning margin was 6 minutes 14 seconds overall? less than the 7 minutes 20 something he was second with last year?

Giro and Tour same year. First time in 40+ years?
 
Rita_Poon said:
It's a bit beyond generational I think. That's the key to it, we've been here faced with the best there's ever been before (some are still banging drums about Indurain) and we've all been let down eventually.

Winning margin was 6 minutes 14 seconds overall? less than the 7 minutes 20 something he was second with last year?

Giro and Tour same year. First time in 40+ years?
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Well we still have Eddy Merckx. 19 monuments, 11GT wins, 3 time world champion, 525 wins. In a 8 year career....

But that's a different era.

Pantani was the last to do the double, 26 years ago.
 
FrenchDarrenBent said:
Nobody said he's a no mark. But he gained 10 percent since last year, he won everything since march and the giro.
And he's still not dipping in his fitness. Supremely dominant, any time, anywhere.

Never seen anything like it.
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Yer but that’s why he’s unique, he honours the history of the sport, he goes for all races, when was the last time a TDF rider targeted the classics, never mind winning them? Probably Hinault in the 80’s.

Doping won’t make you suddenly good on the cobbles
 
Does seem rather odd.
My missus who knows nothing about cycling just said.
Why's he so better than those others, they're knackered he doesn't seem to be sweating.
 

FrenchDarrenBent said:
Well we still have Eddy Merckx. 19 monuments, 11GT wins, 3 time world champion, 525 wins. In a 8 year career....

But that's a different era.

Pantani was the last to do the double, 26 years ago.
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I think Pog takes his GT record and his monument record. Three worlds might be out of his reach and I think 525 wins will be.

Hard to compare different eras but these days riders specialise a lot, the fact Pogacar is so good in this era, over different terrain is very impressive
 
Wat Tyler said:
Yer but that’s why he’s unique, he honours the history of the sport, he goes for all races, when was the last time a TDF rider targeted the classics, never mind winning them? Probably Hinault in the 80’s.

Doping won’t make you suddenly good on the cobbles
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No, but it will increase recuperation and all other aspects of endurance.

I can't buy this, I'm sorry. His entourage doesn't inspire confidence either.

Look at Evenepoel. Ok but not great at the Dauphiné. Hit his peak last weekend. That's normal. Even in Armstrong's day.

Even a generational talent should dip in form.
 

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