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Only question for me is once again are we being ambitious enough? Are we really grasping a once in a lifetime opportunity? If we go for a 54000 seat stadium we are potentially another future expansion project away from just matching what the capacities of the top 6 (except City) will be.
 
Very impressed so far with like pictures on a screen.....long way from hppening, for us anyway.

Good things dont happen to us anymore.
 

No sorry. I saw that in the workshop they mention a 1:1 on conversion so good they are thinking about it.

Yes it is a good sign he's talking about it with those plans. What's crossed my mind is that it says about tread depths of 800mm. That's quite large, for comparison the Park End is the largest in Goodison at 700mm. Assuming it's 800mm all over (it does say average) then you could cut that down in both the Ends to 700mm and that would free up room for an extra 10-15 rows to be added to the North Stand.


One interesting aspect on the North Stand, on one angle it looks as though the North Stand upper overhangs the lower, whereas another angle it doesn't?

On the sides I'm surprised that the upper tier isn't brought closer to the action by making that overhang.

The comparison to the kop shows that they have 76 rows on the same footprint to less than 60 on ours, implying that they have more fans closer to the action there than us. So I'm wondering if the average viewing distance is as good as it appears on ours?
 
54 K is perfect . WE will have the corporate seats , one big home stand and there will be demand every match . With every match available on handheld devices , i dont think all teams in England will continue to expand beyond 60 K . having 10-15 K of corporate seats and a big home stand ( Wall ) will be the main motive of any new stadium built going forward ..55k or 65 k wont be the difference . We will miss out on the cheapest 10K seats which will be filled only when we face the uniteds and liverpools of this world .
 

The designs look great. I love the comparisons with the other stadiums to give us some perspective. One thing that sticks out is that the designs look very similar in size to the new Spurs stadium, but seems that their capacity will be up to 10k more?

I'm still hoping that we can get that 60k stadium we all want. If it's as that design shows, with the fan zone surrounding it and the rest of the design looking as good as the internal design does I'm sure we'd fill it.
 
Only question for me is once again are we being ambitious enough? Are we really grasping a once in a lifetime opportunity? If we go for a 54000 seat stadium we are potentially another future expansion project away from just matching what the capacities of the top 6 (except City) will be.

City will have 61k within a couple of seasons. They are adding a third tier to the 2 tier end.
 
Yes it is a good sign he's talking about it with those plans. What's crossed my mind is that it says about tread depths of 800mm. That's quite large, for comparison the Park End is the largest in Goodison at 700mm. Assuming it's 800mm all over (it does say average) then you could cut that down in both the Ends to 700mm and that would free up room for an extra 10-15 rows to be added to the North Stand.


One interesting aspect on the North Stand, on one angle it looks as though the North Stand upper overhangs the lower, whereas another angle it doesn't?

On the sides I'm surprised that the upper tier isn't brought closer to the action by making that overhang.

The comparison to the kop shows that they have 76 rows on the same footprint to less than 60 on ours, implying that they have more fans closer to the action there than us. So I'm wondering if the average viewing distance is as good as it appears on ours?
Meis did discuss the overhang issue.

Basically if you had the overhang then the top deck needs to be steeper to maintain viewing angles at the back of the top deck, and they’re already at maximum steepness within current regulations.
 

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