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David Moyes interview.

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Lanolin said:
That's not really true though is it? In Moyes's last season we were 10th on the wage table and finished 6th in the actual table. That's not even close to being 'par'. You then have to factor in that a side splashing out £40m in transfer fees and then having a £60m wage bill is spending a lot more than a side who pays out £10m in transfers and has a £65m wage bill. So you can't just look at the wage bill in isolation and say we were finishing we should be, even if the positions in the table did correlate.
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I never once said we "should" finish anywhere. I don't like that line of thinking anyway.

Just pointing out that this shoestring thing is not strictly true. We managed to keep most of our better players for longer than we usually would because we kept offering them improved deals.

As I said, he did alright. There seems to be a lot of weird black or white things regarding Moyes. He did not work "miracles" as some say, conversely we did play some very nice football which sometimes he doesn't get credit for.

He did an acceptable job. He also got the chance to do an acceptable job which many do not get these days or even back then.
 
He did ok built a few good sides signed some good players but bottled major matches with his dour tactics,ruined multiple strikers,and Ran down his contract onowninf Man Utd has tapped him up,biggest joke was the goodison crowd clapping off a manager who thought he was better than us,any respect was lost when he then tried to sign our two best players for a pitiful amount ,good riddance you absolute charlatan of a man
 
Papa Shango said:
I never once said we "should" finish anywhere. I don't like that line of thinking anyway.

Just pointing out that this shoestring thing is not strictly true. We managed to keep most of our better players for longer than we usually would because we kept offering them improved deals.

As I said, he did alright. There seems to be a lot of weird black or white things regarding Moyes. He did not work "miracles" as some say, conversely we did play some very nice football which sometimes he doesn't get credit for.

He did an acceptable job. He also got the chance to do an acceptable job which many do not get these days or even back then.
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That's semantics though really isn't it? You didn't use the word 'should' but you are inferring that we didn't do any better than our spending would have forecast, when the reality is different. Finishing 6th with the 10th highest wage bill and a net spend of £0 is working on a shoestring in premier league terms.
 
ToffeeLee1878 said:
He did ok built a few good sides signed some good players but bottled major matches with his dour tactics,ruined multiple strikers,and Ran down his contract onowninf Man Utd has tapped him up,biggest joke was the goodison crowd clapping off a manager who thought he was better than us,any respect was lost when he then tried to sign our two best players for a pitiful amount ,good riddance you absolute charlatan of a man
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Don't forget he called our fans a disgrace after the man Utd game, that to me was unforgivable, slagging off the best fans in the world, of which I'm proud to be one.
 
Papa Shango said:
We are in as much of a mess as we want to believe we are. For me we are midtable also rans, some seasons we may become the best of the rest only to fall off again the next year as we cant compete (for some reason) with the extra competition. We generally do well at home (one season aside) get beat by the big boys and mess up when any opportunity comes our way.

We have been like this for about 25 years.

What exactly did he achieve by coming 4th? We did not qualify for the Champions League, we go to a qualifier which we of course lost, then we got knocked out of the Europa at the first time of asking in humiliating fashion.

We may not have spent a lot of money (he wasted the times we did have some cash like) but we did pay good wages, wages that were par for where we we finishing in the league.

He was fine. That's all.
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Pretty much agree with most of that.
We have been also ran's for 25 years but my point is, atm Moyes tenure is looking like the most successful since HK 1(1995 excepted) despite having very little money to spend. Don't get me wrong I don't want him back but I don't think he deserves the stick he gets especially when there are more deserving candidates such as Martinez, Koeman, Walsh and BFS who have harmed EFC more than anyone else I can think of including Peter Johnson.
 

Ruairi77 said:
not sure if you're being sarcastic. I thought Fellaini was a great player (overall), yea, a bit clumsy but I loved that day he ran the midfield against City or playing further up front against united at goodison. He'd have been the ideal player to throw on against Southampton the other night. And we sold him for twice what we paid.
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Ya was taking the mickey. Other big signings I class as successes include the Yak, who was great until injury and Johnson, who was useful and we made a profit from in the end. Not to forget cheap signings like John Stones and Coleman.
 
Armaghtoffee said:
I won’t re-write history, he did a great job stabilising Everton whenever it was desperately needed.

However, post Everton he was downright disrespectful to the club with his derisory comments re Baines and Fellaini and I enjoyed watching his career implode.

Any talk of accepting him back as manager is crazy, football has long passed him by.
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Spot on.
 
Finished above Liverpool 2 Seasons on the run with hardly any backing from the club. Hasn’t been done since and looks another 10 years off before it happens again.

More importantly he managed to get the players to give absolutely everything for the club and to the best of there ability. Doesn’t seem to happen these days.

The last Everton manager I actually trusted and believed in, we haven’t had a manage since who was convincing that they actually care for the club.
 

Neanderthal.

It says something of how much we've been dumbed down in the last 30 years that a clueless spanner like him gets any regard whatsoever.
 
davek said:
Imagine Moyes sending a team out to face Brazil in the QFs of the World Cup.

No, I cant either.
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Love you Dave..but thats a nuts statement. The man had old school everton budgets...even with united..not a team that should / could beat brazil. If you have a Hazard, lukaku, de bruyne....it kinda helps x
 
thebluenosebolt said:
Love you Dave..but thats a nuts statement. The man had old school everton budgets...even with united..not a team that should / could beat brazil. If you have a Hazard, lukaku, de bruyne....it kinda helps x
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It's setting the talent up though.

Moyes would have had Hazard in goal and Lukaku on the wing.
 

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