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David Moyes interview.

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ToffeeLee1878 said:
He did ok built a few good sides signed some good players but bottled major matches with his dour tactics,ruined multiple strikers,and Ran down his contract onowninf Man Utd has tapped him up,biggest joke was the goodison crowd clapping off a manager who thought he was better than us,any respect was lost when he then tried to sign our two best players for a pitiful amount ,good riddance you absolute charlatan of a man
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It is hardly bottling when the other team is better than you... You'd also struggle to name a striker he ruined. They were never that good in the first place.

Moyes has completely lost his way since leaving us but at the time he was a good manager who turned our club around.
 
davek said:
It's setting the talent up though.

Moyes would have had Hazard in goal and Lukaku on the wing.
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:Blink: not a chance. In his time He had a 45+ year old up top, with a "powder" nominee, a one season wonder croatian and a man u reject..tbh if we are talking about players available.. .Martinez has hit the jackpot with this Belguim squad..many predicted should be winning the world cup by talent alone.. not quite sure why this topic is even up for debate....it is friday mind and I have come in half shizzled...
All i know, Moyes got me back in love with Everton from the mire before him...and came with a message....."the peoples club". A masterstroke ..

If we can forgive Rooney his kissing the badge debarkle and Big Dunc being a maniac...why cant we just let by gones be bygones. If he could muster a less than par side to being being best of the rest, what do we have to loose, lets be honest here...yeah we want titles but we are currently way off being best of anything right now....
 
dannyboy said:
It is hardly bottling when the other team is better than you... You'd also struggle to name a striker he ruined. They were never that good in the first place.

Moyes has completely lost his way since leaving us but at the time he was a good manager who turned our club around.
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I dunno - I thought he did well at West Ham. Being back with Irvine seems to make a difference
 

thebluenosebolt said:
:Blink: not a chance. In his time He had a 45+ year old up top, with a "powder" nominee, a one season wonder croatian and a man u reject..tbh if we are talking about players available.. .Martinez has hit the jackpot with this Belguim squad..many predicted should be winning the world cup by talent alone.. not quite sure why this topic is even up for debate....it is friday mind and I have come in half shizzled...
All i know, Moyes got me back in love with Everton from the mire before him...and came with a message....."the peoples club". A masterstroke ..

If we can forgive Rooney his kissing the badge debarkle and Big Dunc being a maniac...why cant we just let by gones be bygones. If he could muster a less than par side to being being best of the rest, what do we have to loose, lets be honest here...yeah we want titles but we are currently way off being best of anything right now....
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Not even in the same league for me.

A former manager taking the absolute piss after being treated so well. He is persona non grata for ever.
 
Agent Blue said:
Pretty much agree with most of that.
We have been also ran's for 25 years but my point is, atm Moyes tenure is looking like the most successful since HK 1(1995 excepted) despite having very little money to spend. Don't get me wrong I don't want him back but I don't think he deserves the stick he gets especially when there are more deserving candidates such as Martinez, Koeman, Walsh and BFS who have harmed EFC more than anyone else I can think of including Peter Johnson.
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I think he has harmed us more than any of them (well not Johnson) in a less obvious way and not intentionally.

We are losers. We were losers for a good ten or so years before he got here too (apart from 1995) but we dared to dream a bit. Its probably why I still like Martinez, yeah it turned bad in the end but he dared to dream at least. BFS did zero to harm us by the way. He had a job to do and he did it well and then was moved on as was always going to be the case.

The plucky loser mentality at the club needs to stop if we are to do anything. For example did anybody expect us to win on pens this past week? There was an air of crushing resignation to the whole thing.
 
Lanolin said:
That's semantics though really isn't it? You didn't use the word 'should' but you are inferring that we didn't do any better than our spending would have forecast, when the reality is different. Finishing 6th with the 10th highest wage bill and a net spend of £0 is working on a shoestring in premier league terms.
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I don't really care about any of that to be honest. He had a good team there (and to be fair he built it) in 11 uninterrupted years he probably should have won something with it. Its very rare to get that long at a club and that stability is worth its weight in gold too.

As I have said I am not having a go at him, he did a decent, maybe even a good job here. That's it though.
 

Watched this interview and yano wot... we took a chance on a young manager and gave him a way into the prem. He had 1 of,if not the safest jobs in the league. He was allowed to make his mistakes and learn his trade from a chairman and if were honest supporters who were happy not to be in a relegation fight and to either beat or heaven forbid finish above the red [Poor language removed]...

We made moyes a wealthy man, paid for his houses, kids,nice cars and holidays... he was good for us and we was good for him.... the fact remains though for me... and this interview proves it... he shafted us at the first opportunity, then had the cheek to come back and try it again with baines and felli... he said, " i was told by sir alex i could only tell my wife no one else". Does that include the everton chairman who showed you so much loyality when things didnt go well?... was he like us in the dark when u played the last 3 games?

[Poor language removed] off moyes, im sick of your [Poor language removed]... u stitched us up as soon as you could, but the grass isnt always greener is it... ur not the first and you wont be the last and reguardless of what you think about yourself you werent the best to shaft us... move on lad... you ginger prick, find your level as a manager back up in Scotland with raith and queens park... hope you find your socks to ya ginger blert...
 
Saint Domingo said:
Tbf he’s gone on record saying his targets included Bale Kroos Herrera Ronaldo. It was made clear to him he had to play the likes of Webeck etc. still in the squad and that money wouldn’t be made available. The fact that Fellaini and Mata are still there even now shows you he actually spent what little money he was given ok.

It was a bad move all round. Ferguson left title winners but they were all coming to the end by that point. You could stick a fork in Scholes Giggs Ferdinand (who did all retire before he joined) and Vidic. Others like Fletcher Carroll RVP and Rooney we’re slowing down. Moyes needed to go out and get star quality but the United board thought that the SAF genius of taking poor players and just slotting them into unbelievable attacking teams would carry on forever. It didn’t. It didn’t happen under Van Gaal either and now Mourinho is teaching them an expensive lesson.

Ferguson was winning titles with midfields of O Shea and Giggs in a two. He was an absolute genius who made the likes of Cleverley and Welbeck look like stars. Moyes was never going to follow that. No one could have. They should have given him the millions that any top continental manager would have demanded.
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Given time he would have succeeded. He had teams for that would have with a little more money at Everton. Waste of a very good manager. He should get Villa. Perfect for him.
 
eame71 said:
Watched this interview and yano wot... we took a chance on a young manager and gave him a way into the prem. He had 1 of,if not the safest jobs in the league. He was allowed to make his mistakes and learn his trade from a chairman and if were honest supporters who were happy not to be in a relegation fight and to either beat or heaven forbid finish above the red [Poor language removed]...

We made moyes a wealthy man, paid for his houses, kids,nice cars and holidays... he was good for us and we was good for him.... the fact remains though for me... and this interview proves it... he shafted us at the first opportunity, then had the cheek to come back and try it again with baines and felli... he said, " i was told by sir alex i could only tell my wife no one else". Does that include the everton chairman who showed you so much loyality when things didnt go well?... was he like us in the dark when u played the last 3 games?

[Poor language removed] off moyes, im sick of your [Poor language removed]... u stitched us up as soon as you could, but the grass isnt always greener is it... ur not the first and you wont be the last and reguardless of what you think about yourself you werent the best to shaft us... move on lad... you ginger prick, find your level as a manager back up in Scotland with raith and queens park... hope you find your socks to ya ginger blert...
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not forgiven then? Ferguson was amazing but being told what to do with your life by him...I dont buy it unless you had told him you would want the job. If not then that is weak as it gets.
 
Papa Shango said:
I think he has harmed us more than any of them (well not Johnson) in a less obvious way and not intentionally.

We are losers. We were losers for a good ten or so years before he got here too (apart from 1995) but we dared to dream a bit. Its probably why I still like Martinez, yeah it turned bad in the end but he dared to dream at least. BFS did zero to harm us by the way. He had a job to do and he did it well and then was moved on as was always going to be the case.

The plucky loser mentality at the club needs to stop if we are to do anything. For example did anybody expect us to win on pens this past week? There was an air of crushing resignation to the whole thing.
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That’s certainty an interesting interpretation of the facts.
 
Papa Shango said:
I think he has harmed us more than any of them (well not Johnson) in a less obvious way and not intentionally.

We are losers. We were losers for a good ten or so years before he got here too (apart from 1995) but we dared to dream a bit. Its probably why I still like Martinez, yeah it turned bad in the end but he dared to dream at least. BFS did zero to harm us by the way. He had a job to do and he did it well and then was moved on as was always going to be the case.

The plucky loser mentality at the club needs to stop if we are to do anything. For example did anybody expect us to win on pens this past week? There was an air of crushing resignation to the whole thing.
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I think we have quite different opinions of Moyes and Martinez and probably Allerdyce, but I wholeheartedly agree with your last sentence, although things around the club feel a lot more positive now than they did last season.
Silva and Brands are already looking more competent than their counterparts from last season (not difficult) and appear to have spent a lot more wisely, but until we are rid of those players who let us and the club down so badly for the last few seasons it's still going to be a bit of a roller coaster.
 

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