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David Moyes - Taking a knife to a gunfight at West Ham, Part 2

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ForeverBlue92 said:
What its shown is there is no substitute for a good DOF/scout at the club. Moyes turned water into wine during his time at Everton signing bargains and he's doing it now at WHU with the likes of Soucek, Coufal & Lingard.

Meanwhile we champion the clown DOF of ours who's spent £77 million on Iwobi, Kean & Gomes whilst giving Bernard £120k+ a week contract.

If he is offered a new contract I give up with this club.
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Someone somewhere has this vaulted FB92 ... be careful!
 
Daveysgingerlovechild said:
It's a fair point. As a loan, he's worked out brilliantly for Moyes. No guarantees though. He could have gone badly Josh King (or indeed, vice versa - just our luck).

Big Kevin Campbell had a similar hot streak on loam for us. Vital contribution. A very good plater for us too once signed, but he didn't continue at that initial level.
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Big Kev didn't have more than 30 England caps!
 

Daveysgingerlovechild said:
If there is one thing I miss about the Moyes era is the ability to scout well. Sure there were a few misses (Shandy Van Der Meyde, Bily, Kroldrup, Drenthe) but by and large he got tremendous value from players.

Some of Martinez' recruitment was questionable, but there were some excellent signings too. It all went properly south at the start of the Moshiri era and subsequent changes. Technically Niasse was whilst Martinez was here, but still not sure he was happy with it.
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Thought Bobby's signings were crap, in the main. We got used to signing quality at bargain prices over the Moyes era, and have never been the same since.

I imagine his system was still in place, but he was always the bloke making the final decisions. Seems his eye for a player is among the very best.
 
JobForTheMoyes said:
Thought Bobby's signings were crap, in the main. We got used to signing quality at bargain prices over the Moyes era, and have never been the same since.

I imagine his system was still in place, but he was always the bloke making the final decisions. Seems his eye for a player is among the very best.
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Yes, some of his signings were good for us. I'll admit some will debate me on a few of them. But I'd class Lukaku, Barry, Delefeou, Mccarthy (season 1, he was great), and Joel as good signings.

Alcaraz, McGeady, Kone, Eto'o, Cleverly et al really did balance it all out...

Compared to Koeman and Walsh though...
 

Daveysgingerlovechild said:
Yes, some of his signings were good for us. I'll admit some will debate me on a few of them. But I'd class Lukaku, Barry, Delefeou, Mccarthy (season 1, he was great), and Joel as good signings.

Alcaraz, McGeady, Kone, Eto'o, Cleverly et al really did balance it all out...

Compared to Koeman and Walsh though...
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The only ones who were really successful were Lukaku (a no brainer foisted on us) and Barry.

I think Delefeou has lungs the size of crisp packets - would be a great player if he could last longer than half an hour!
 
JobForTheMoyes said:
The only ones who were really successful were Lukaku (a no brainer foisted on us) and Barry.

I think Delefeou has lungs the size of crisp packets - would be a great player if he could last longer than half an hour!
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Fair enough mate, that's your view. They all contributed hugely that first season. I'll take the point on Geris lungs, but I'd still have him here as an impact sub.
 

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