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David Moyes

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So achieved the same as Slaven Bilić did
And more than Ancelotti.

I’m not advocating his return because I don’t think returning works out very often, but I certainly think he is a good manager.

From the great 80s team to Moyes were were mostly awful (Joe Royal cup win appart), then we recovered under Moyes with no funding. Then appart from Martinez first season, we have been pretty awful having spent more than ever.

His teams were far more enjoyable to watch than this lot. I’d take Cahill, Arteta, Graveson and Fellaini over all of our midfield any day.
 
The facts are he has been our most successful manager since 1995 by so far it isn't funny.

Is he an inspiring choice, no.

Would he be strong enough to clean the joint out and create some stability, yes.

Would his teams have the heart and soul that the fans so desire, yes.

Outside of one season, which you could argue was a combo of the defensive structure he instilled, mixed with Roberto's attacking style, we haven't come even close to achieving what he achieved.

I'd love us to look elsewhere, but he would not be a bad choice. Just because he doesn't wear hipster jeans or drinks organic kale juices on the sidelines, doesn't mean he can't manage a football team. He has done an amazing job at West Ham.
 
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The facts are he has been our most successful manager since 1995 by so far it isn't funny.

Is he an inspiring choice, no.

Would he be strong enough to clean the joint out and create some stability, yes.

Would his teams have the heart and soul that the fans so desire, yes.

Outside of one season, which you could argue was a combo of the defensive structure he instilled, mixed with Roberto's attacking style, we haven't come even close to achieving what he achieved.

I'd love us to look elsewhere, but he would not be a bad choice. Just because he doesn't wear hipster jeans or drinks organic kale juices on the sidelines, doesn't mean he can't manage a football team. He has done an amazing job at West Ham.
We know what we'll get from Moyes. Consistent 7th/8th place finishes, and bottling all the big games. Don't get me wrong Moyes did a good job for us, but he's not the man to take us to the next level. Bringing him back for a second stint as manager, would be a depressingly retrograde step. I want a winner as our next manager, and David Moyes just isn't a winner.
 
We know what we'll get from Moyes. Consistent 7th/8th place finishes, and bottling all the big games. Don't get me wrong Moyes did a good job for us, but he's not the man to take us to the next level. Bringing him back for a second stint as manager, would be a depressingly retrograde step. I want a winner as our next manager, and David Moyes just isn't a winner.
Bullocks. He just finished sixth with a worse squad.
 
Bullocks. He just finished sixth with a worse squad.
The first leg against Fiorentina, the second leg against Sporting Lisbon, the cup semi final against the rs, the Wigan game. No wins at anfield the Emirates Stamford Bridge and Old Trafford. Enough said. Moyes did a good solid job for us but as i say, going back to him would be a depressingly backwards step.
 
We know what we'll get from Moyes. Consistent 7th/8th place finishes, and bottling all the big games. Don't get me wrong Moyes did a good job for us, but he's not the man to take us to the next level. Bringing him back for a second stint as manager, would be a depressingly retrograde step. I want a winner as our next manager, and David Moyes just isn't a winner.
That’s a fair point about not being able to take us to the next level, but the fact is we haven’t been at the level we were since he left. All of our managers and I include Carlo have been walked over by the players, at least that wouldn’t happen under Moyes. However I have absolutely no idea now who we get or what the plan is.
 

The first leg against Fiorentina, the second leg against Sporting Lisbon, the cup semi final against the rs, the Wigan game. No wins at anfield the Emirates Stamford Bridge and Old Trafford. Enough said. Moyes did a good solid job for us but as i say, going back to him would be a depressingly backwards step.
Every manager has bad individual games. Doesn’t take away from the fact he had us consistently punching way above our weight for more than a decade.

And if you look at some of the football West Hal played this year, some of it was genuinely edge of the seat stuff.

And that is without mentioning the excellent players we saw under him, like Arteta, Pienaar, Baines, etc. Heck, he even made us a few quid by signing John Stones before he left.
 
Every manager has bad individual games. Doesn’t take away from the fact he had us consistently punching way above our weight for more than a decade.

And if you look at some of the football West Hal played this year, some of it was genuinely edge of the seat stuff.

And that is without mentioning the excellent players we saw under him, like Arteta, Pienaar, Baines, etc. Heck, he even made us a few quid by signing John Stones before he left.
He did do a good job for us. But he had his flaws as manager as well. We need to move on from Moyes though. Besides he burnt his bridges with Everton, with his behaviour and conduct towards us after he joined United.
 
He did do a good job for us. But he had his flaws as manager as well. We need to move on from Moyes though. Besides he burnt his bridges with Everton, with his behaviour and conduct towards us after he joined United.
His conduct was fine. He always talks about Everton with a lot of respect.

I actually think he would have won a lot for us under a level playing field. I certainly think he would develop us a lot better than we have done since we left. He might only lay foundations, but it would be better than the guff served up, by and large, since he left.
 
To be honest I blame Moyes entirely for that defeat. Scoring that early clearly blew apart his game plan to hold out for a draw or try to nick something on the counter.
Instead he allowed Chelsea to come at us for 89 minutes…and that was only ever going to end one way. He did nothing to change the game and we endured an 89 minute wait for the inevitable defeat.
The only surprise of the entire day was Dan Gosling coming on after about 80 minutes…and that was because Anichebe was out injured, so Moyes’ usual substitution strategy couldn’t be used.
Yeah right. Nowt to do with Chelsea having a cash-doped team? Just compare what was on the pitch that day:

GK 24 United States Tim Howard
RB 2 England Tony Hibbert Yellow card 8' Substituted off 46'
CB 4 Nigeria Joseph Yobo
CB 5 England Joleon Lescott
LB 3 England Leighton Baines Yellow card 90+4'
RM 21 England Leon Osman Substituted off 82'
CM 18 England Phil Neville (c) Yellow card 47'
LM 20 South Africa Steven Pienaar
AM 17 Australia Tim Cahill
CF 25 Belgium Marouane Fellaini
CF 9 France Louis Saha Substituted off 75'
Substitutes:
GK 1 England Carlo Nash
DF 15 Denmark Lars Jacobsen Substituted in 46'
MF 8 Ecuador Segundo Castillo
MF 26 England Jack Rodwell
MF 32 England Dan Gosling Substituted in 82'
FW 14 England James Vaughan Substituted in 75'
FW 37 England Jose Baxter

GK 1 Czech Republic Petr Čech
RB 17 Portugal José Bosingwa
CB 33 Brazil Alex
CB 26 England John Terry (c)
LB 3 England Ashley Cole
DM 12 Nigeria John Obi Mikel Yellow card 63'
CM 5 Ghana Michael Essien Substituted off 61'
CM 8 England Frank Lampard Yellow card 84'
RW 39 France Nicolas Anelka
LW 15 France Florent Malouda
CF 11 Ivory Coast Didier Drogba
Substitutes:
GK 40 Portugal Hilário
DF 2 Serbia Branislav Ivanović
DF 35 Brazil Juliano Belletti
DF 42 England Michael Mancienne
MF 13 Germany Michael Ballack Substituted in 61'
FW 9 Argentina Franco Di Santo
FW 21 Ivory Coast Salomon Kalou
 

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