2022/23 Dele Alli

[st.domingo]

Can I just wrap things up here by suggesting to Dele (and anyone else) that - and I have experienced both - you would be much better off getting into some Wim Hof breathwork rather than balloons. High on your own supply...

 

[blueblue]

I think we will see him move to the MLS for next season.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

lol No he's an actor. He's no more a professional chairman that you are a professional WUM. And you're both terrible at your jobs.

I think he's very good at it look how many long standing posters keep getting roped in, they can't help it. At least we have that half against Palace last year where Dele looked decent.

 

[RAFUH]

Take the Kenwright chat to that thread unless it is very specifically about Dele.

 

[Ebrell22]

Not quite those levels but concur about the fall from grace, should and could've been amongst the best around based on initial form. I find it quite sad really. Bad advice or just ignorant to any advice he did get. Polar opposite to Bellingham who seems to have a strong support network round him. Kids eh

Higher than bellingam. One of the top midfielders europe for 3 seasons especially 2016/2017 scored 18 pl goals and 7 assists

 

[BNJ1878]

When he signed Lukaku did you give him the credit he deserved for being fully responsible for bringing such a good striker to the club?

Well, apart from the part he called Chelsea about Demba Ba.

Yeah.

As for Ali, it was presented as a fait acompli on Lampards first day.

"last day of the window, we can get Ali and VDB, yes or no?"

Would they have signed them had Lampard said no? Doubtful.... But Ali was 100% a Kenwright vanity project. To view it otherwise is up there as one of your worst rewrites of history (and it's had stiff competition.)

 

[cocklord]

If his been smoking balloons surely grounds enough to send him packing back to white Hart Lane.

 

[Mr Happy]

Higher than bellingam. One of the top midfielders europe for 3 seasons especially 2016/2017 scored 18 pl goals and 7 assists

Stats smats. Bellingham is already ten times the player than Dele was at similar age. Like comparing apples and oranges.

 

[twoblue]

I can quote where they were praising Bill Kenwright over the signing later. After it was done.

All silent now.

Bill Kenwright is 100% disgrace and he is definitely a great deal to do with everything that is wrong at the club.

He signed off, literally the signing and negotiated the deal

All before Thelwell arrived at the club

of all the transfers we have made that have been spectacularly poor, and the shambolic running of the club over the last decade, the arrival of a former £100m rated player on a free transfer, is not the one to focus. It was a bet that never came off and in real terms hasn’t cost us much.

Don’t think there’s any dispute Kenwrong did the ‘negotiations’ with Levy but both Alli and Lampard are represented by the same agency (CAA Base) and imo there is zero chance this wasn’t all set up in the background during Lampard’s talks about becoming manager.
At the very least he will have known and endorsed it (or been able to veto it), and I believe it’s entirely viable he and CAA Base actually floated it as a ‘condition’.

I agree - There is no way lampard wasn’t over this.

Also the dele thread at the time had more people in favour of the deal then against.

 

[MikeH72]

Higher than bellingam. One of the top midfielders europe for 3 seasons especially 2016/2017 scored 18 pl goals and 7 assists

He was playing as a striker then, not a midfielder.

 

[twoblue]

Its cost Everton > £13 million. A player that has been rejected from a club we sent him off to for non performance

On what planet, and in what universe is that "the right thing for Kenwright to do" ?

Its complete and utter incompetence. No attempt by you to dress it otherwise changes that.

£13m isn’t a huge amount for a premier league club. If you spend £13m on a player he is not likely to be a first team player.
Yes the signing never worked out, but you are freaking at what is relitively a small loss.
The amount of bad signings we have made in the last decade have led to this. We have barely bought anyone whose value has increased in ten years.

 

[twoblue]

Well, apart from the part he called Chelsea about Demba Ba.

Yeah.

As for Ali, it was presented as a fait acompli on Lampards first day.

"last day of the window, we can get Ali and VDB, yes or no?"

Would they have signed them had Lampard said no? Doubtful.... But Ali was 100% a Kenwright vanity project. To view it otherwise is up there as one of your worst rewrites of history (and it's had stiff competition.)

Unrealistic expectation of how this likely played out.
Lampard would have been thrashing out terms, the agent would have also represented dele would have working on the deal in conjunction.
Lampard would have known about the dele deal throughout negotiations, likely encouraged, even suggested, rather than surprised by it at the point he became manager.
Lampard and dele having the same representatives is a big clue here

 

[Damo_1878]

£13m isn’t a huge amount for a premier league club. If you spend £13m on a player he is not likely to be a first team player.
Yes the signing never worked out, but you are freaking at what is relitively a small loss.
The amount of bad signings we have made in the last decade have led to this. We have barely bought anyone whose value has increased in ten years.

Given the state of the EFC accounts. We cannot afford to waste a single penny. Let alone what we have on Dele Alli

 

[Damo_1878]

If his been smoking balloons surely grounds enough to send him packing back to white Hart Lane.

We cannot send him "back to White Hart Lane"

He's a permanent Everton player.

 

[twoblue]

Given the state of the EFC accounts. We cannot afford to waste a single penny. Let alone what we have on Dele Alli

It was the state of the accounts that forced us to take a chance on dele. It made little impact on the accounts.
I can’t get as worked up as you, about it.
Think we can agree it hasn’t worked out.
But disagree that the long shot bet was or wasn’t worth taking at the time.
Hindsight’s always 20:20