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2022/23 Dele Alli

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He is like quite a few of our squad, there is no chance of us getting rid of them even on a free. We are rewarding mediocre players with superstar wages. No one else would contemplate paying them the wages they get from Everton so we are stuck with them. The issue with this club is that the Board hired and fired various managers and allowed them to bring in players who are not premier league standard to play in a system that the next manager didn’t play. We compounded this by paying them far too much. We have done this for so long the club has lost its identity and we are now relegation fodder.
Hopefully the last two seasons are the bottom of the barrel and we have now decided to do something about it, albeit we have no money. I won’t fully believe we have changed until Bill Kenwright is out of the club.
 
Chrismac said:
Yes, pay him his contract to come in and train everyday with U23s.. see how he fancies it.
We've got to stop being an easy touch.
Why pay the guy £2.5m to walk away and find another side?
If he wants to play elsewhere then he'll need to accept the best offer he gets.
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With respect, I think that’s the least productive solution for all parties and would be to the detriment of how potential employees will view the club. I can only think of Adrian Mutu having his top flight contract cancelled in the last 40 years (I’m probably wrong)
Dele has a contract with Everton, it’s not his fault it’s ours. What has he actually done which warrants him having to train with the u23s? Why would it be a good idea to have a potentially disruptive influence being around our youth players who need to focus? Everton have to honour his contract so if we can somehow get away with paying him less than his full salary for a full season then it’s an option that has got to be taken. The club is already a laughing stock with players reluctant to sign, with what you propose to do it would make it worse (if that’s possible). I personally wouldn’t give potential signings any more reason to swerve the club as we desperately need better players than we have.
 
If we didn't hire an inept despised manager and allow him to sell our best players within a month of sacking him we wouldn't be in this mess.

Of course if the Tory's didn't decide that only Russians are baddies we wouldn't be in this mess.

The moral is choose an allied evil sugar daddy.
 
Caolam said:
He is like quite a few of our squad, there is no chance of us getting rid of them even on a free. We are rewarding mediocre players with superstar wages. No one else would contemplate paying them the wages they get from Everton so we are stuck with them.
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Worst than that with this joker, he’s basically retired in all but name.
If he was a mediocre player he’d at least make it onto the pitch.
As it is we’re basically giving him an early mega pension.
 

GoldenToffee said:
Because they'll probably not want to pay a fee for him as they'll know of Everton's dilemma (we can't keep him as he's on £100k a week and we're obligated to pay Spurs up to £20m if he participates in a certain number of games this season).

If Alli gets an offer from Saudi but the club doesn't want to pay for him then Everton have three options:
1. Keep him on £100k a week but not play him
2. Pay him off so that he leaves
3. Keep him on £100k a week, play him, pay Spurs up to £20m which we don't have

Alli's agent will know the best option by far for Everton is for his client to be paid off to leave. It'd save Everton about £2-3m (negotiating a 50% payoff) vs keeping him on £5m a year but not playing him to avoid having to pay Spurs.
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Why is there not an option to allow him to leave for free?
 
Chrismac said:
Why is there not an option to allow him to leave for free?
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Why would he leave for free when he's contractually owed £5m this season in salary, or about 50/75% if he can agree a payoff?

If there is Saudi interest then his agent would tell Everton he's prepared to leave the club for a payoff, but if the club doesn't agree then he'll sit it out and pick up £5m for nothing. The club would then have no option but to pay him off, then he'd be signed up in Saudi the next day.
 

Clarky cat said:
With respect, I think that’s the least productive solution for all parties and would be to the detriment of how potential employees will view the club. I can only think of Adrian Mutu having his top flight contract cancelled in the last 40 years (I’m probably wrong)
Dele has a contract with Everton, it’s not his fault it’s ours. What has he actually done which warrants him having to train with the u23s? Why would it be a good idea to have a potentially disruptive influence being around our youth players who need to focus? Everton have to honour his contract so if we can somehow get away with paying him less than his full salary for a full season then it’s an option that has got to be taken. The club is already a laughing stock with players reluctant to sign, with what you propose to do it would make it worse (if that’s possible). I personally wouldn’t give potential signings any more reason to swerve the club as we desperately need better players than we have.
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It wouldn't make it worse to sign players though.
We have given him a contract, an obligation to pay him, however if he doesnt put in at least effort (you'll struggle to convince me he actually is doing that based on his past 4 seasons as a footballer) then he is failing us not the other way around.
So, he has two options.
Turn up as an employee and train each day (without a squad number) and get paid for absolutely zero value to his employee, or go elsewhere.
It's up to him what he would prefer.
But that's the two options the club should be offering.
He has taken enough wages while doing next to nothing to warrant them, why should we make it better for him financially and personally?
We should never have signed him, that's our fault, but the only people that would look negatively at this we shouldn't be looking to buy anyway.
I'm not saying cancel his contract, I'm saying allow him to leave for free, two completely different circumstances.
There's been plenty of players over the years forced to train on their own/with youth because they weren't in the managers plans.
 
GoldenToffee said:
Why would he leave for free when he's contractually owed £5m this season in salary, or about 50/75% if he can agree a payoff?

If there is Saudi interest then his agent would tell Everton he's prepared to leave the club for a payoff, but if the club doesn't agree then he'll sit it out and pick up £5m for nothing. The club would then have no option but to pay him off, then he'd be signed up in Saudi the next day.
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What are we talking about here?
He is under contract with us, if he wants to leave to go to Saudi for a payday why would we pay him off?
Jesus christ I'm struggling to get this atm.
Please enlighten me of an instance when a player under contract has been offered a big money move and the owning club have said OK and here's £2.5m on top.
If he wants to leave let him.
The argument if he doesnt have any options or he has but its on reduced salary I can understand but not if he's been offered better terms elsewhere.
 
Chrismac said:
What are we talking about here?
He is under contract with us, if he wants to leave to go to Saudi for a payday why would we pay him off?
Jesus christ I'm struggling to get this atm.
Please enlighten me of an instance when a player under contract has been offered a big money move and the owning club have said OK and here's £2.5m on top.
If he wants to leave let him.
The argument if he doesnt have any options or he has but its on reduced salary I can understand but not if he's been offered better terms elsewhere.
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Time will tell. Modern football is a strange and confusing thing.
 

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