Director of Football

[HumbleWedbetters]

are we getting a director of football or someone who sits in a 1M a year proxy role who doesn't actually sign players and lets moshiri do what he does and takes responsibility for it.

 

[Toff33Blues99]

Don't need one, its a ridiculous role made up by a scout with a big ego. All you need is a chief scout and good scouting network then let a CEO do the negotiations. The role leads to many grey areas, was it his signing, was it a managers etc

 

[davek]

Don't need one, its a ridiculous role made up by a scout with a big ego. All you need is a chief scout and good scouting network then let a CEO do the negotiations. The role leads to many grey areas, was it his signing, was it a managers etc

And that's exactly what we've had for the past few years and what we'll get again if Hitchens comes in.

The DoF role here at Everton is a fallacy. It's a job title not an actual gig.

 

[toffeeblue9]

Don't need one, its a ridiculous role made up by a scout with a big ego. All you need is a chief scout and good scouting network then let a CEO do the negotiations. The role leads to many grey areas, was it his signing, was it a managers etc

Those are only grey areas to you, not to the club

 

[Billy Dean]

Does my nut. Decent scouts is what any club needs. The clubs might call them DOF, but I cant think of one club who has changed manager, and the style of football has stayed the same.

I don;t think it's quite about the style having to stay the same, but IMO there should be someone there who can assess the profile of the squad and then assess the profile of managerial candidates to see which one is most likely to be successful with the squad. Rather than doing what we've done in just going for polar opposites every time we hire someone.

 

[bcblue1878]

Dan Ashworth has nothing to do with choosing who Brighton's manager is.

I was as surprised at this as anyone else, but he did a great interview on BT Sport where he described what his responsibilities are and he made it clear that this doesn't include choosing the manager and that the owner/board do that bit.

4.20 onwards he talks (very well!) about everything that has gone wrong at Everton since Moyes thought the grass was greener down the M62!

 

[fandjango]

We're not getting one. I think that is abundantly clear by now.

It's been a disatrous role and completely alien to Everton.

As predicted.

Ohhh that’s a brave shout …..

 

[fandjango]

I bet this is you...

Ahhh Dave really ?

 

[fandjango]

Moshiri wants a DoF for political reasons: it keeps Kenwright from imposing himself on thre football decisions but allows him to employ a man who he can manipulate and bypass if need be.

It's strategic, not madness.

And that’s probably the best assessment of it in real terms or realpolitik as you intellectual posters say

 

[Blues Harp]

" Its football Jim but not as we know it" ?

 

[Baines' left foot]

Yes. The problem with not having a director of football is whenever a new manager is brought in he signs players that are very different to the ones the last manager signed. The product of that is a squad constantly full of mismatched players that the new manager has to try and work with.

With a DOF there can be a more long term view of recruitment and managers that fit the philosophy (for lack of a better word) can be appointed to continue the work. With the position we are in if we appoint a manager who goes on to achieve good things then the chances are they will move on to a bigger job. To mitigate the loss of the manager it would help to have a DOF, but they need to be good, obviously.

Looking back I don’t think Brands did a terrible job, but he signed a few players with poor mentalities and mental attributes. Gomes and Iwobi spring to mind.

 

[Deco]

Brighton is the perfect example of how clubs can overachieve consistently. Their owners also run a club in Belgium who were only just promoted but are flying at the top of the league.

This isn’t luck. It’s the same strategy used across two clubs with vastly different budgets and countries, but the same overachieving result.

The reason it works is actually because of how so many clubs are poorly ran. We’re equally a perfect example of a club that underachieves because of how we operate.

If you run a club well, you squeeze the extra 10% out of your resources and capitalise on other teams being in upheaval and not making the most of their (sometimes much larger, like in our case compared to Brighton) budgets.

For us, if we were operated similarly we’d consistently finish around 4th-8th with domestic and European cup runs. As fans I think most would snap your hand off for that!

Put the right structure and people in place, pay well for the right expertise, and that £5-10m a year investment would make the hundreds of millions we spend every year go further.

 

[davek]

And that’s probably the best assessment of it in real terms or realpolitik as you intellectual posters say

What do you think about the results of the Ferguson poll you asked me to conduct?

 

[Tony’s Carp]

I think the idea of a transformational DoF who will dictate a style for 5-10 years is for the birds really. Especially at Everton. Brighton are flavour of the month, and no doubt they are being well run, but maybe if they go on a run of 10 games without a win they’ll be on the blower to Big Sam like anyone else. That’s football.

A guy like Hitchens is probably what we need- good scouting experience, but also a guy who has collaborated well with managers to deliver their targets rather than impose his own. We want a guy who can pitch in ideas but not a guy who is going to go above a manager’s head, we’ve had enough competing influences down the years.

 

[fandjango]

What do you think about the results of the Ferguson poll you asked me to conduct?

I replied yesterday
I agree with the poll … but as you know you’re a clever chap and skewed the wording of the question
I withdraw , you’re sloppier than Boris